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Alien Factor: Ancient Aliens Scientific Theory

Postby Ahreeman X » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:14 pm

Alien Factor: Ancient Aliens Scientific Theory
March 9, 2005

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Before begin reading this discussion thread, please visit these links:

The Alien Factor Series
Chapter I: Macro Analysis
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Chapter II: Micro Analysis
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Alien Factor Discussion Thread
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The Theory

Picture this theory with an open mind,

We have been searching for "The Missing Link" for ages, to finally change "The Theory of Evolution" to "The Law of Evolution". What if The Missing Link is an element totally different than what we had in mind?

We have been searching for a Link between Primitive Primates and Evolved Human. We been searching for a Primate, a Sasquatch, a Big Foot, a Yeti and an Abominal Snowman to fill the connection between Apes and Human, primitive primates and modern primates. What if we were totally looking in a wrong place?

What if:

The Missing Link is The Alien Factor?

Aliens have been watching us for ages! Originally, Aliens have mixed their DNA with Primates & created us. So your mothers are Baboons & your fathers are Little Green Men! We have been a test subject. Picture Earth as an Aquarium, animals as Algae and us as fish. How about picture Earth as an Ant Fram, animals as microbes and us as Ants?!

Aliens have been watching this experiment for decades, centuries, millenniums and Millions of years. Their concept of Time is different than ours. 100 of our years is a few days for them!

Time, The Fourth Dimension

Time is the fourth dimension. Height, Length, Width and now Time as the Fourth Dimension! If everything is Relative (Einstein) & Theory of Relativity is based on the Time Factor, then picture how The Alien Factor Concept can work! How they can travel from one spot to another in a blink of an eye and how is it that according to our concepts, they age gracefuly!

Time is also precious, too precious to argue with Reptilian Minds. One Track Reptilian Minds, just action & reaction, flex & reflex, but no emotion, no logic, no ingeniuty! Reptilian Mind is pin point needle brain, no frontal lobe, no many lobes, no complex brain, just a pin point! Time is too precious to be wasted on Reptiles!

Evidence

How could primitive Egyptians with their primitive tools, drag gigantic heavy stones up the air to build the pyramids? Even today's machinery has a hard time to move so many huge stones & shape a flawless work of art such as pyrimids!

How could pyramids in Peru & Mexico be formed by Inkas & Aztec's primitive tools?

How about ancient paintings, hieroglyphics and carvings in the caves of Africa, Asia, Mesopotamia and Americas since thousands and thousands of years BC, which shows portraits of Astronauts in various different stories interacting with men & doing various different tasks?

How about the facts of so many UFO siting for centuries, & all the evidence and films?

How about many other unexplained factors .........?

If we be logical about the whole issue, then we can vision that "Evolutionary Jumps" through the history of Evolution and evolvement of species from Amebus to Human, were not all Bio/Chemical Jumps, yet many were effected by The Alien Factor.

Some Jumps were in fact the results of The works of Aliens.

Scales

Picture this:

We are species on a planet called Earth. This planet is only one planet amongst the many planets of the Solar System in the Milky Way Galaxy which is located in our Universe. Now picture there are unknown number of other Universes existing in the space. When you look @ it this way, then you comprehend that:

a) How small and irrelevant the human species are!

b) Possibilities of other thinking species existing in the universe is endless!

c) Our problems, political conflicts, economical issues, religious wars, racial rivalries and other issues on Earth seems relatively microscopic & of no importance in comparison to what is going on in our Universe & All Universes!

d) It is simply idiotic to still believe in Religious Doctrines that there is a guy called God up there sitting in the space, who created All This! And he created us in his own image and we are the only thinking creatures in the universe!

e) Right away questions come to mind that Who the hell created God?

You see people have limited minds & right away, they hand you these points:

1. Every element has a creator; therefore, some one had to create All of This Universe, and that is God!

2. God is infinite and eternal. He was always there, is here now, & will always be there forever!

So it is very logical for the average human to believe in this fairytale, because it is the easiest way out of this Fundamental Question of Philosophy, without bothering to do some Deep Critical Thinking & Self analysis! Just believe in a supreme being & leave the rest to him & don't use your brain!

They have no problem believing that God is Eternal and infinite. But they have a problem believing in:

The Scientific Conservation Law of Matters & Energies

which says:

Matters & Energies has never been created nor they will be destroyed, yet they will constantly change from one form to another. The total amount of Matters & Energies in the Universe will always remain the same.

What does this mean?

The Big Lie

It means we (Evolutionists) say that Matters & Energies are in fact eternal & infinite! They have never been born & they will never die, but they will transform from one form to another. Thats all to it.

Public cannot digest this scientific logical Law of physics. This is not a theory, but it is a Law.

But public can digest cockamamie stories of Quran, Bible, Tora and other rubbish in the holy Books!

The Scientific View

If we comprehend the fact that the whole Universe & Universes were always there & will always be there & they were constantly Changing from one form to another due to interactions of Matters & energies and internal & external energies amongst the elements, then it is easy to comprehend that Nothing gets suddenly created! There is no creator & there is no creation!

The Evolution Graph

The graph of this whole universe & everything in existence would be a Snake-Like graph with up cerves & down curves starting from infinity & going to infinity. It has never started from anywhere & it will never end! We have a fixed number of elements in this universe that are constantly transforming to various forms & evolving to more complexed forms. Thats all. Nothing to it folks.

The Scientific Creator

Now if you insist on searching for a Creator, then by all means, consider this logical theory based on scientific facts that The Jump from Primitive Primates to Neanderthals & then Present Human Form has occured by the Alien Factor. Aliens maybe the creators of human being but even they did not have the power to create everything in this universe & defy the Laws of Logic & Theory of Evolution!

This is more logical than believing in God or other Mumbo Jumbo Rubbish creation of the Weak Minds!

The Scientific Factors

The Conservation Law of Matters & Energies in Physics is a Fact.

The Relativity of Einstein is a Logical Scientific Theory.

The Evolution of Darwin is a Scientific Theory.

All is missing to it all is The Missing Link. That's all & the most logical explanation is The Alien Factor.

There goes your Gods & Prophets & Miracles & Holy books & Religions, & Meta Physics, & Invisible Forces & Creation & creator & every other imaginary concept which has been formed in your minds since birth!

Everything they fed you is a Lie. The Big Lie.

Science is your only salvation. Science is the Wave of Tomorrow.

Islam and The Big Lie

Now Muslim infected with Allahic Virus are the Greatest of The Brain Dead Folks in the universe! Eventually they will be forced out of their cocoons in the Near East! They have been fallen behind times & science, simply because Islam in its nature is Reactionary & anti Science. Now they are reduced to Sucide Bombers of Allah. Arabo_Muslim have been drowned in Superstitions for Centirues & they do not even know it! The sad part is that they have been dragging us down the Quicksand with themselves & we (Persians) are not even Arabs, Semites or true Muslim!

Islam & Muslim are doomed to anihilate because Science knows & has no mercy! Progress with Science or be doomed to banish! Survival of the fittest indeed!

The Big Picture

Now if you comprehend the Alien Factor, then all your measly problems on Earth becomes small silly idiotic issues!

Do you see all these Iranians with all their arguments in all their little forums and Talk Shows? They are a deformed species of Ants (deformed & degenerated due to The Allahic Imported Virus from Mecca), living in a Gigantic Ant Farm called Earth! How silly does their Little Ant Community looks?! How silly does all their problems look?! How silly does their arguments look? How irrelevant does their political sects & ideologies look?! Ants in The Ant Farm, thats all.

In our case, our problem is not humanity in general, our problem is the primitive limited minds of The Iranian Community.

Let me ask you a few questions:

How many Political Parties does a single Opposition to IRI needs?
How many Websites does a single opposition to IRI needs?
How many TVs or Radios does this opposition needs?
How many silly idiotic forums does this opposition needs?
How many leaders does this opposition needs?

Aren't they one opposition opposing the IRI and fighting for the same thing?
Then why 1001 Episodes?

As you see, our people are not evolved. No matter if they pose as a Villager in villages of Khorasan with a beanie hat and baggy pajamas or if they pose as a three piece suit wearing Doctor or an Engineer in America or Europe, the brain waves are still primitive due to infected Arabo_Islamic Allahic Virus inputted in their brains 1400 years ago, causing them to divide in many sects & bang on each others heads rather than unite & fight the common enemy. Thats why they are in need of 100 different political parties, websites & forums & leaders. Not a single two can agree on a single issue.

That's why once we used to rule the globe as Persians before Islam.

and now,

We seek salvation in the hands of Uncle Sam for left over Bones from CIA & we beg him to help us see salvation & free us from Akhund. We beg as Iranians after Islam!

We rather beg Uncle Sam than to take arms and action ourselves to free Iran!

We have turned to degenerates in 100 sects writing garbage in our forums & keeping an eye to the person next to us to finally stand up & do something but ourselves, we never stand up! It is too hard to stand up & we are degenerated Iranians! How can we stand up?

Lets get back to the main subject.

The Alien Factor Concept

This concept opens our minds to new horizons & visions. We will see the universe & universes in a different & larger view. We will see the big picture. It is like, a huge black curtain, lifts up from our view & we start seeing the big picture, much more than our usual little view of our own stupid little cult, sect, communications, life & the world. Our world crashes right in front of our eyes. Our Gods crash right in front of our eyes. A New Horison starts to form. We start to see The Big Picture.

The destruction of The Faith is the first step to True Salvation.

Faith brings fanaticism. Faith to any God, any prophet, any political ideology, any leader, any cult, any.............. its all poison. Its all deadly. Its all brain stopping. It stops and avoids the Brain to gain oxygen & to function freely & independently.

Nothig is Sacred and Nothig is Absolute

Nothing is Absolute & nothing is sacred. Thats the first Law to Seek The Truth. Put away all your fanatical beliefs towards any element. Nothing is sacred. Everything must be questioned and studied. That is the scientific way & method. Thats the path of science.

The Beyonders

Some of us do think beyond the box. We are The Beyonders. We were born a few centuries early! We are way beyond Today's boundaries & today's human relations specifically our primitive Iranian Community seems extremely baseless, ilogical, irational, primitive and idiotic to us! We are The Beyonders. We are beyond today's social regulations, simply because we are from the future. Our minds belong to the Future but our bodies belong to Today!

Soon or late, The Human Specie is bound to Evolve or doomed to be annihilated. The Survival of The Species indeed. The Strong survives & the weak dies out, survival of the fittest. This has been the story of Evolution throughout the History of the world & mankind. Evolve or be Extinct. But the point is:

Where Do You Stand?

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Birds.....

Postby LOJ » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:45 pm

I am personally and recently delving into the theory of evolving from Birds, if not us then the Gods as they were "then" referred to. No I am not saying that I am no longer a creationist, or Spiritually based person, all I am saying is that I think it is all grouped together...i.e. evolution, creationism, heaven, hell, ahreeman etal...

My recent curiousity stemmed from watching a movie the other night....if you note in all evil or good vs evil films, there is always a depiction of a creature with wings. Even the devil has wings, as well as horns. Now if you truly think for a moment about the human psyche and how we use our descriptive terms for entities that we exhalt or abhor they still remain entities that are usually based on what we've seen.
Heiroglyphics were based on what the ancients seen. If you stretch your imagination out to the time of the dinosaurs then you will probably have creatures that were birds yet resembled human forms in some sense.

Whenever you see an angel that is art or painting or whatever they have wings, ok, now these first impressions were from SOMEONES mind, so I deduct that the person seen a very good template of a type of bird.
Thus we have angels depicted as birds, and the devil well....it could have just been one bad terodactyl that people seen only doing evil things so that was depicted as the devil.
Somewhere, or somehow I think birds figure into the missing link, if there is even such a thing as a missing link.

Yes I know that when you time date this theory it won't hold water, but has anything else thus far with any certainty.
Familiarity breeds the imagination, no matter what we remeber or what we CREATE to get our points across, you will see almost 100% of the time it is based on what we've seen or experienced in the past. I don't believe that some person out of nowhere came up with an angelic icon or satanic icon without using some degree of familiarity while creating it.

We can not say for sure that angels or even satan were here way before the dinosaurs, nor can we with any certainty say that dinosaurs existed. After all the archeologist who discover time dated relics are using HUMAN CREATED TESTING AND HYPOTHESIS theories. ALL CREATED BY MAN....and we already know that man is prone to errors and biases.
And please don't even mention the Bible or anyother Religious book here when stating why these items are depicted with wings, I'm too aware of those writings and yes they do state that angels had wings, this is not the point I'm getting at. The Bible, the Torah, The any religious book was still written by man therefor being subjected to the same laws and rules of a biased human who writes history or anything else.
You simply CAN NOT CHOOSE TO JUST BUY A THEORY OR A RULE because someone famous or revered wrote it. I don't care who a person is and what their accomplishments in life, they STILL MAINTAIN HUMAN NATURE BIASES......that is why it is very difficult for me to delve full throttle into history or anything ancient based soley on writings.

I have always stuck by the fact that:
Extrodinary people say normal things and
Normal people say extrodinary things.........nevertheless the written word always is backed up by some HUMAN MOTIVATION, it may be pride, recognition or money, there is always a reason a person chooses to write or record events.
That is why I say if you didn't see it happen then it didn't. Live and let live, but always state your stance on life and subject manner....that my dear is a quote from your's truly.....who is definitely here and verifiable!:)

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Postby Ahreeman X » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:11 am

Mostofi ol Mamalek:

"If you look around Iran, you will see bits and pieces of super advanced civilizations. You will see things that even modern science cannot explain. The Faravahar itself is not just a person with wings. I think that it is one of the last remenants extraterrestrial Iranians. Wow, whacky stuff eh. Maybe. But that thought has always been with me. If you look at the murals of Persopolis, or other places you will see the kind of art, which is not in this time zone. Even nowadays, with todays, tools we cannot create such carvings.

So why am I saying all this? It is because this tiny morsel of Zend Avesta we have, is from a very large, very powerful language, which is 50 thousand years old. Yup that old. You need to know a little a bit about geology to appreciate what I mean by the last Ice Age etc. Read stuff from Velikofsky and you are just scratching the surface.

Why do you think people keep seeing space ships over Iran? And it is not US drones always. There are many real UFO sightings. Then you have various worm holes and other Space Time gateways in Iran."


Amen!

How about this one:

Faravahar is the perfect proof of the Dual nature of Ahuramazda or shall we say duality of Ancient Persian God!

Wings represent Good
Claws (original drafts) represent Evil
Human body represents "Man" as effected by both! Ying & Yang.

or how about this one:

half man/half beast Faravahar (Good & Evil)

Faravahar, perfect example of duality in Zoroastrian Original Text.

Ahuramazda & Ahreeman are two sides of the same coin! Non is complete without the other!

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Postby LOJ » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:37 pm

My gawd, ying yang, and then I hear that you watched that Last Passion of Christ film, yet I hear your atheist all the way........Man if you could swing that small pendulum any further I would call you the catholic church number 2....or baby or take your pick.
You know I've never really been a big fan on people who allow themselves to be identified by the quotes of other infamous individuals....ying, yang, ding, dong, and coo coo and all the rest......but you truly do my old wise master know how to manipulate even those cukoos.......
C'mon where is Ahreeman???? You know the Ahreeman that only stands by what Ahreeman says..........and btw: the only reason I answered this, was cuz I thought that it was a reply to my bird factor......but in a way i guess it was, cuz you are my bat in the belfry:)
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Postby Ahreeman X » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:30 pm

Dear Low Jack:
:nurse:

Whats The Deal?!

First off, Adamzad :painter: E-mailed me a Snow Dick @ the back of the pick up truck! I asked him what the hell is this? He told me that, I encouraged him to make new graphics for the future site, so he was searching the net for a Dick to yet make another one of his famous IRI Flags (KIRi Flags)! However, he could not find a large enough Dick to make the flag so instead all he found was this snow dick & it was no use to him; however, he thought to send it to me for possible future usage! So he sends me the Snow Dick @ the back of the truck & he writes:

I am sending you this for the possible future usage! Of course he meant graphic usage!

Second, you :doctorF: come up with this idea to stick something up my butt! I am referring to this:

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewto ... eafe6130e3

You go on about Ass & sticking things up my Ass & bla bla..............

What's wrong with this picture? :inqeyes:

Look @ the people around me! One sends me a snow dick for future usage & one wants to stick a finger up my Ass! With friends like this, who needs enemies?! :googly:

What's wrong with you people?! There are some serious issues going on in IPC! I am telling ya, there is something really wrong with IPC folks!

Also, stop Bull Shiiting me! You replied to this one because you simply could not resist such a golden opportunity to make a,
smart Ass remark! :sarcas:

Shaaaaaaaaaaaaame on yeeeeee woman, Shaaaaaaaaaaaame.......(Scottish accent)! :scot:

I was watching once again 4 hours of The Brave Heart, yes directed & played by my favorite Christian Fundamentalist Genius, Mel Gibson, & once again I went into William Wallace (Rob Roy) Character & got my scotish accent back! Yeeeeeeee knewwwwwwww women? Get a Grrrrrrrip women!
:fenc:

Episodes!

I ask those who cut the bread with me & bled with me, to once again cut the bread & bleed with me, yet one sends me a dick & the other wants to finger my butt! Whats wrong with this picture?!

Only in IPC, only in IPC, one can find so many twisted frustrated geniuses!

Now what has all this have to do with the subject of this thread, you ask?!
Weeeeeeeeell, as Ronald Reagan used to say, afterall, I am The Beyonder, like an Alien from outside looking into this Bang & Bologna Persian community, & this Ant Farm called Earth, no?! Maybe a Persian Alien (Mostofi's Theory), observing from outside, in.............
:UFO:

I am The Watcher
I, The Watcher

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You must be kidding???/

Postby LOJ » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:44 pm

C'mon.....
he could not find a large enough Dick to make the flag so instead all he found was this snow dick & it was no use to him


Your kidding right? he knows you yet still can not find a large enough dick....tell him to get with my people and we will let his people know that they are obviously missing the biggest dick online....You my DAHLING!

I find you absolutely convuluted, polluted and loloLuted, that is why I respond dear....that and once in a greattttt greatttt while, I would hope that my postings will possibly just affect/effect ONE millimeter of your overly obtuse head....and you will finally come to your senses, we will wed and retire to IPC posthood.
Who loves you baby?????

Wait let me answer that one, can I can I can I???
Only me dahling.....

And since you asked the porn business is booming like shiite tonight.....but you know I'd still prefer a nice home cooked meal of ghorma sabzi with shmoi! The only problemo is that you never invite....you only force yourself......ok wait.....FORCE IS GOOD!

Luvs, LoLo

I ask those who cut the bread with me & bled with me,


Please tell me this is an all inclusive statement and not a MULTIPLE CHOICE ONE \:D/
Oh I forgots you are not the child molester I thought you were....so my voice can come up a few octaves now when we VC...???/ NO.....damn I'm good....yet humble.
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But seriously though.....

Postby LOJ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:53 am

Ok the first time I read your EUREKA story about the Alien factor, it totally struck me that somehow one of the bulleted points below is/was missing?? So I thought......0ooo

--Ahreeman can not just NOW be figuring out these HYPOTHESIS?
--Ahreeman needs a vacation.....
or....
---Ahreeman needs to stay far far away from witches, aliens and Bush..oh my......

Ok but do you see the BLATANT hypocrisy going on here....If not let me clue you in....

How about the facts of so many UFO siting for centuries, & all the evidence and films?

How about many other unexplained factors .........?


Hmmmm....I could and have said the same thing re: Religion, only to hear Ahreeman cite to me about how I believe in fairy tales....well dear it seems to me that the green little chunky blonde that is reading to you at nights is on one hell of a shroooommmm ride or you are dreaming way toooo much.

ok on to point two...

If we be logical about the whole issue, then we can vision that "Evolutionary Jumps" through the history of Evolution and evolvement of species from Amebus to Human, were not all Bio/Chemical Jumps, yet many were effected by The Alien Factor.

Some Jumps were in fact the results of The works of Aliens.



MY GAWD MAN GET A GRIP......if we VISION??????
Don't you know most religious partisan groups are built on vision...how can you ask someone to do something that you so openly abhor??
When I asked you to vision certain views on religion I was laughed out of the room.....but I still knew I was right so I returned much to your good fortune :kissey:

Ok now let me put one of my infamous corrections here, just to keep us on a good climb....:)

How could pyramids in Peru & Mexico be formed by Inkas & Aztec's primitive tools?


Dear it never fails to amaze me how someone of your stature can spell words like REGURGITATED ALIEN DROOL....but can NOT spell INCAS

Some Jumps were in fact the results of The works of Aliens.

Very good now you are finally learning how we got our current President, his mommy was jumped by an alien on her way down to the root cellar ...... :B

Picture this:

We are species on a planet called Earth. This planet is only one planet amongst the many planets of the Solar System in the Milky Way Galaxy which is located in our Universe. Now picture there are unknown number of other Universes existing in the space. When you look @ it this way, then you comprehend that:


I'm sorry was I absent that day, because the last time I checked I didn't think we had to PICTURE THIS/IMAGINE THIS.....I THOUGHT ALL OF THE ABOVE WERE TRUE....No???
Then it's back to that class called "Earth is small and the people are smaller 101".........that is compared to that host of other advertisers out there promoting for the galaxy.....

Ok enough joshing, in a synopsis, I do agree but not totally.
I do believe there are other galaxies and universes out there that put ours to shame, I have no problem with that....but will praying to a giant green squinty eyed man get me any brownie points in the afterlife...I don't think so. There are way too many factors to be explored and one could literally run out of GB on their own internal "brain" hard drive exploring them all.
We can discuss and debate atheism, creationism, alienism, blah, blah, until we are green in the face (no pun intended..... \:D/ )
And the mere fact that we DO DEBATE these things and actually think we will get somewhere by doing so...should tell you how us humans here on earth spend countless hours trying to think of more things just to get through our time here on earth...
I mean the single one invention of WORK, was just to give us something to do while living and doing our time here on earth.....

That word WORK, it gives me a nauseated feeling just thinking about it.... :-:

Well enough for now......Time for bed... I mean it's almost 6AM, shiite I have to get into my darkroom before the sun comes up.....
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Postby Ahreeman X » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:43 pm

Dear Scandalous Woman:

"Ok the first time I read your EUREKA story about the Alien factor, it totally struck me that somehow one of the bulleted points below is/was missing?? So I thought......0ooo

--Ahreeman can not just NOW be figuring out these HYPOTHESIS?"


No, Ahreeman is wise!

"--Ahreeman needs a vacation....."


I just got back from one! I almost did not make it back! Check:

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewto ... 8bbb446e83

"or....
---Ahreeman needs to stay far far away from witches, aliens and Bush..oh my...... "


But those are three of my favorite types!

"Ok but do you see the BLATANT hypocrisy going on here...."


No I don't!

"If not let me clue you in.... "


I am sure you would dear!

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How about the facts of so many UFO siting for centuries, & all the evidence and films?

How about many other unexplained factors .........?


Hmmmm....I could and have said the same thing re: Religion, only to hear Ahreeman cite to me about how I believe in fairy tales....well dear it seems to me that the green little chunky blonde that is reading to you at nights is on one hell of a shroooommmm ride or you are dreaming way toooo much."


Honey, there is a big difference between UFOs & Religion! There are Hard Core documented facts on existence of other civilizations in our universe, set aside other universes! Religion on the other hand is a fairy tale! God is a myth! Get a clue woman! You are comparing apples & oranges! Science & Faith!

"ok on to point two... "


Oh must you?!

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If we be logical about the whole issue, then we can vision that "Evolutionary Jumps" through the history of Evolution and evolvement of species from Amebus to Human, were not all Bio/Chemical Jumps, yet many were effected by The Alien Factor.

Some Jumps were in fact the results of The works of Aliens.


MY GAWD MAN GET A GRIP......"


I am trying to get a grip! Let me see if I can get a hold of Haji Kuchike! Oh ye, aha, yeeeee .......... ooooh, I think I am feeling something, I got a hold of it, let me grab it down there .......... &, ye......... ok I got it, I got a good grip on Haji, I got the whole world in my hand! I got the whooooooooooole world in my ..............! I got the whole thing in my ..........

"if we VISION??????
Don't you know most religious partisan groups are built on vision...how can you ask someone to do something that you so openly abhor??"


A Fish breaths
I breath
So does this mean that I am a fish?!
Your logic is flawed!
Vision is not exclusive for Faith based Cults!

"When I asked you to vision certain views on religion I was laughed out of the room....."


You handed me some LaLa Landish episode, & no one TOSed you out of anywhere! Don't lie woman!

"but I still knew I was right so I returned much to your good fortune"


The amount of arrogance coming out of you is amazing!

"Ok now let me put one of my infamous corrections here, just to keep us on a good climb...."


Oh Lord, must we listen to it?!

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How could pyramids in Peru & Mexico be formed by Inkas & Aztec's primitive tools?


Dear it never fails to amaze me how someone of your stature can spell words like REGURGITATED ALIEN DROOL....but can NOT spell INCAS"


Actualy I encourage you to correct my mistakes. Once I write material for the new site, I need to be corrected so we don't print errors in the site. You see, I can make mistakes because I am not an "Influential Mentor", "Author", "Philosopher", "English teacher", "Subject of Arab's erotic activities" & etc.

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Some Jumps were in fact the results of The works of Aliens.


Very good now you are finally learning how we got our current President, his mommy was jumped by an alien on her way down to the root cellar ...... "


Whats your beef with W? Your own liberal CNN voted him as the 4th most sensational person in the world!

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I like W! I love strong minded people who are not affraid to say how they feel or what they feel. I hate political correctness!

Hey, you know what would be a great race?

Hillary Clinton against Condoleezza Rice on 2008! Do you think America is ready for a female president?

Specially Condy! A Black, Unmarried Woman! Triple Wammy!

I believe Condy is more qualified but for sure it will be one hell of a race, no?!

I assure you, if you guys run Hillary, then we will have no choice but to run Condy! The only choice to beat Hillary!

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Picture this:

We are species on a planet called Earth. This planet is only one planet amongst the many planets of the Solar System in the Milky Way Galaxy which is located in our Universe. Now picture there are unknown number of other Universes existing in the space. When you look @ it this way, then you comprehend that:


I'm sorry was I absent that day, because the last time I checked I didn't think we had to PICTURE THIS/IMAGINE THIS.....I THOUGHT ALL OF THE ABOVE WERE TRUE....No???
Then it's back to that class called "Earth is small and the people are smaller 101".........that is compared to that host of other advertisers out there promoting for the galaxy..... "


Honey you can picture anything you like as long as you stay off of my blue suede shoes!

"Ok enough joshing, in a synopsis, I do agree but not totally."


Figured!

"I do believe there are other galaxies and universes out there that put ours to shame, I have no problem with that....but will praying to a giant green squinty eyed man get me any brownie points in the afterlife..."


Why should you pray to anything? Well except to Ahreeman! Just expand your horizons & search for new facts! There is a whole universe out there! World does not end @ your silly existence & your silly God! There is a universe out there! This is not a classroom for you to get points with your God for afterlife!

"I don't think so. There are way too many factors to be explored and one could literally run out of GB on their own internal "brain" hard drive exploring them all.
We can discuss and debate atheism, creationism, alienism, blah, blah, until we are green in the face (no pun intended..... )
And the mere fact that we DO DEBATE these things and actually think we will get somewhere by doing so...should tell you how us humans here on earth spend countless hours trying to think of more things just to get through our time here on earth...
I mean the single one invention of WORK, was just to give us something to do while living and doing our time here on earth....."


But you love debating philosophy with me! It is so enlightening!

"That word WORK, it gives me a nauseated feeling just thinking about it.... "


Well honey, some of us must work for living! Unlike certain bums like Reza Pahlavi & certain Pornographers such as Low Jack, rest of us must work or starve!

"Well enough for now......"


Thank you Lord!

"Time for bed... "


Alone?!

"I mean it's almost 6AM, "


Only loosers sleep during daytime! I am up 5AM. I accomplish as much during 5AM to 10AM as people like you accomplish the whole day!

"shiite I have to get into my darkroom before the sun comes up..... "


You are turning to a vampirella!

"Luvs, LoLo"


LoLo, would you like a Mojo?!

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Lori,

Check it out, a few pointers:

I. Sounds like you might want to have a serious formal debate. If you decide on doing so, then we will take it to Formal Debate Room & either continue our old one or start a new philosophical debate. Its up to you!

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II. This one for you my dear:

Nurollah X: Islam, Sufism, Porn & Lori Forouzandeh!
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You should look around the club, I might have something stashed for you!

III. Observations:

"....and you will finally come to your senses, we will wed and retire to IPC posthood.
Who loves you baby????? "


You mentioned something about getting married! Let me tell you why it will not work!

You have been married to many & now to one!
I have been married to one, & now to many!
(Rioooooooot, Killeeeer!)

But the combination of two of us getting married would be the "War of Roses", soon after this reunion, one or both will die in a bloody physical fight!

Two strong headed, independent, pig headed poles can never connect in peace! It will be a bloody battle!

IV. As you mentioned before, you are @ a point of your life which you are bored! Nothing satisfies you any more! No one person's company, people around you, jobs, sex, socializing, society, etc. You been there & done that! You are bored to death & nothing excites you any more! Thats why you do drastic things such as becoming a pornographer! Its all a scream in silence! A try to capture new & exciting angles!

You are in search of "New" meanings to life!

You need someone to fulfill your never ending thirst for new horizons! You need someone totally different to satisfy or @ least temporarily feed your never ending needs for erotics, intellectual stimulations & love!

Usually, people such as us, who have been exposed to everything (Sex, Travel, Self Education, Philosophy, Activities, Sports, etc.) since the early age, & had experience all aspects of life since early ages,..................... then there will be nothing left to experience in later days of life! We have ran out of new experiences! We been there & done that! Thats why we get bored!

In a way, it is good to be deprived & live in a limited society like Iran! When you grow up deprived of experimenting with different things, then eventually you will have many more new things to experiment with during your whole life & the remainder of your life!

But in our case, @ this point of our lives, when we are still considered "Young Adults" (20 to 45), we have ran out of options & experiments! There is nothing left for us to try! Thats why you do crazy things such as becoming a pornographer & I do Dangerous Sports, living on the edge, trying to push & see how far can I cheat the Death!

In a way, people like us are screaming out loud for something New in life! We are desperately running out of options & experiments with life!

I can exactly feel your pain!

V. My soul hurts! Have you ever felt that even with 100 people around you, yet you still feel alone! You cannot relate to anything or anyone! There is a party of 40 people in your house, blasting away with loud music, dancing, sex, lights, socializing, ..................... but you feel like you are in a haze! You cannot relate anymore because you have done this @ age 18 & these parties do not trun you on no more! Actually nothing can turn you on any more, even sex, drugs, Rock & Roll or Jobs!

You have done everything & been there & done that & now you are bored out of your skull! What will you do? There is always a way out with a bullet! Or you can go ahead & try extreme things such as we both do! I am @ a certain point of my life that I desperatly seek New Horizons.

VI. Thank God for Internet! Why you ask? Technology is great! How else can we gather a group of people from around the world in one place to talk to?! How else we could hand pick these people & bring them to one place in the world to communicate to?! With this tool (Internet), simultaneosly, we can gather a group of people from around the globe in a forum (IPC) & relate to them!

I might have 100 people around me, friends, family, lovers, workmates, ............... but non of them can relate to me or satisfy my soul, the way that I can relate to for instance people like you, Admzad, Camran, others............

If it was not because of Internet, then we had to actually travel to talk to one another! Now, its a piece of cake & @ the tip of your keyboard, microphone or Web Cam!

VII. We are all prisoners of our own circumstances! Everyone is a prisoner!

We are all searching for that never reaching goal! We travel a long way to reach it, but will we ever?

Look @ it!

Robert is searching for that golden light, who knows where, somewhere in Africa!
Cat is searching for the truth, somewhere in South America!
You are searching for the "New", in the world of Erotics Business!
I am in search of the latest challenging & Dangerous Water Sports out in the market!

We risk everything just to have a taste of something new, exciting & different!
We are bored of the same old, same old!

To someone living in Iran or the average American living in states, our lives are full of excitement & they can only wish to have our lives! They cannot comprehend, why is it that we are bored out of our skull!

Thats the beauty of it! Someone's trash is someone's treasure!

Our lives are boring to us! But @ the same time, many people in the globe, only wished that they were living our lives! You see, this is how the universe operates!

So whats The Deal?

When you reach to the point that you look @ the society as a Stable & the people as The Cattle! People's daily lives & arguments on & off the net, sounds moronic to you & people's actions seems primitive to you! When this silly existence does not satisfy you no more! When you simply must discover more to life than this! Then obviously you cannot connect to the average Gav O Guspand! The society & people's daily lives & problems sounds & seems so primitive & silly to you! Cows go in & come out! Off to work, on to home, then weekend, the machine must go on & on ...............

Simple Mind, Simple Pleasure!

Give Amigo a Burrito & a Corona Beer,
Give the Mexican Chulo or Chula a Low Rider,
Give Bro, a Six Pack,
Give Hassan a ticket to Metalica Concert,
Give Nanaz an entry to Club Montage or the latest Hot Disco,
Give Baba Washington, BBQ Ribs,
Give Joe a corporate position,
Give Jane a Mercedes Benz,
Give Jack a house in suburbs,
Give Ham Bone a Villa in South of France,
Give Akbar, a stupid silly average Iranian Forum for idiots to write in,

and they will all be happy, thankful & satisfied!

Simple Mind, Simple Pleasure..............

What if.......... Nothing can satisfy you any more?

Well, it comes down to either:

I. A Bullet in the brain, a way out, .............. Sadeq Hedayat Style!

II. Searching for any possible gleams of any new thing to excite you!

Well, @ least we have IPC, a place for selected Brains of society to relate to! Soon the new site will be up & life will be more exciting!

OK, I rushed home from an evening out & about, only to watch Law & Order! Gots to go watch Law & Order! Don't you loves Law & Order?

My Favorites by order:

Law & Order Original
Law & Order Special Victims Unit
Law & Order Trial by The Jury
Law & Order Criminal Intent

I watch all four of them religiously! 12 years of Law & Order, how can we live without it? The greatest Series in history of the world indeed! My all time favorite character in all Law & Orders would be ADA Abbie Carmichael (Angie Harmon), a tough, cold blooded, independent, conservative, career minded, sexy woman! Nobody ever came close to fill her shoes as the ADA in the originals! I have a thing for Angie Harmon, but Jason Seaborn (New York Giant's Quarter Back stole her from me! She dropped her modeling & acting career to marry him! How can they not have Law & Order in Iran?!

This reminds me that I should write an article about Law & Order!

Anyhow, my darling,

Thats all folks!

We are all prisoners of our own circumstances!

Amen!

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and too young to Die!
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Postby Ahreeman X » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:28 am

Low jack:
:lojak:

Oh I just remembered one thing! Check it out Chuck, or shall we say Chuckette!

As long as your new career is to pimp women as "Private Entertainers", "Lap Dancers", "Stripers" & "Escorts", then I came up with a new name for you.............YES, yet another new name that I am granting thee!

Oh & you are teaching these girls Belly Dancing :belly: rather than striptease! An Influential Mentor that you are! Shmoi has become a Pimp Daddy!

Therefore, your latest name will be:

Madam Lojak or in shorts "Madam Lo"!

Damn, that sounds like a Chinese madam from San Francisco!

Killeeeeeeeeeeeer, Riooooooooooooot! :hystery:

sometimes, I kill my self! :pulp:

Picture a Chinese client in San Francisco calling you & requiering info from you! This would be how the conversation goes:

:chinese: Mr. Chang: I saw, say Madam Lo, you got young girls for me? I want Shang Hi Lolita to love me long, love me good........... I give dollars, lots O dollars, Madam Lo, you got Lolitas for Mr. Chang?!

:lojak: Madam Lo: I saw, you saw? Madam Lo got Lolitas for you. Madam Lo got Young Chowmain & Kong Pow Chickens for you. Give me Dollars, Big Dollars........ They love you long, they love you good......... Heres some for you: :princess: :chadori: :cheer: :giggle:

:chinese: Mr. Chang: I see, I saw....... Thank you Madam Lo, We love Madam Lo, she who solves our problems! I bring my friends too! We want to Bang Long, We want to Bang good, Here they are: :jap: :indochin: :paki:

:chinese: Mr. Chang: You make my heart dance, Madam Lo!

:lojak: Madam Lo: Bocu Love, Bocu Dollars, thats my Game, Madam Lo is my name!

Killer, Riot!!!!!!!!!!! :yeees:

Oh by the way, while writing this to you, I am listening to Bobby Darin's "More" song! Nothings as cool & smooth as bobby :swingman: on the Rockssssssssssssss!

cheers "Madam Lo"!

Who loves you baby?
Ahreeman indeed!
Who else?!

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Postby Kaafer » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:01 pm

The Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy does not apply to God in the view of creationists and Muslims. They do not consider God to be made of matter, nor a decipherable form of energy.

The alien theory is missing a very important explanation: where was this inhabitable planet? What happened to it? The Drake Equation need not apply if it was destroyed. But then, that works against the assumption that this theory helps to explain sightings in our lifetimes and in those of our more recent predecessors.

The similarity to ants is undeniable, of course. We share communal similarities with all heterotrophic societies. What sets us apart is our ability to reflect and advance as a species.
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Postby Ahreeman X » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:05 pm

Dear Kaafer:

Ey Kafer, Zindiq, infidel, how are you?

Have you just barge in here without saying hi or rubusi? Salami Aleyki? I hope you took your shoes off before entering IPC? We have very expensive Persian Rugs in IPC. In the past we had few people come in IPC without taking their shoes off. We never heard from them again! I believe Camran Mirza done a 2nd circumcision on their sonbol!

Allow me respond to you,

"The Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy does not apply to God in the view of creationists and Muslims."


Of course it does not apply! I am kind o confuced here! Has anyone said so? I know I didn't! Are you just making a statement or are you refering to someone who said so? If you mean Religious wanna be scientists, of course, they always want to color the religion with a scientific logic!

"They do not consider God to be made of matter, nor a decipherable form of energy."


Exactly.

"The alien theory is missing a very important explanation: where was this inhabitable planet? What happened to it?"


What planet? Alien planet? Earth? What? Are you speaking in Tongs? If you are talking about the Alien Planet, it is still here (assumed).

" The Drake Equation need not apply if it was destroyed."


For arguments sake, lets say that It still does exist, Alien planet that is!

" But then, that works against the assumption that this theory helps to explain sightings in our lifetimes and in those of our more recent predecessors."


Exactly.

"The similarity to ants is undeniable, of course. We share communal similarities with all heterotrophic societies."


Exactly.

"What sets us apart is our ability to reflect and advance as a species."


Don't undermine Ants. They can reflect & also advance. Actually Ants are far superior than many creationists including Muslim!

"Agar bekhAi madAdeh nono, cheshmhAyeh to mizaneh dodo
-Ancient Persian Proverb"


The hell is this? Is it in Dahati accent? Is this a kind o Ancient Proverb, created by you? In that case, heres a Fel Bedahe (spontaneous) one for you:

Agar bekhahi mamlekati pishrafte va bedune shar,
Bayasti bezani emshi bar Quran o Gav o Guspand o Khar!


heres another one just for you:

Dar Iran, Qater-i micharid dar baq,
Eslam amad o qater tabdil shod be olaq!


That is indeed Devolution of Qater to Olaq!

You like?
I love creating spontaneous poetry. Read my "Divan-e Hajviyat" sometimes!

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Postby Kaafer » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:07 am

AhreemanX wrote:Dear Kaafer:

Ey Kafer, Zindiq, infidel, how are you?

Greetings, dear Sir.

Have you just barge in here without saying hi or rubusi? Salami Aleyki? I hope you took your shoes off before entering IPC? We have very expensive Persian Rugs in IPC. In the past we had few people come in IPC without taking their shoes off. We never heard from them again! I believe Camran Mirza done a 2nd circumcision on their sonbol!

Lord, what happened to Persian hospitality? Was that a gust of cold wind I felt?
I am the great Kaafer, Kafar, however you prefer to spell it is fine with me. I accommodate all dialects. It matters not where I hail from, but rather to where I am destined: the fiery dooms of Jahanam. \:D/
Anything more specific will require an IP trace. :devnoid:

"The Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy does not apply to God in the view of creationists and Muslims."


Of course it does not apply! I am kind o confuced here! Has anyone said so? I know I didn't! Are you just making a statement or are you refering to someone who said so? If you mean Religious wanna be scientists, of course, they always want to color the religion with a scientific logic!

Aram bash, dadash. I was simply adding to this statement:


e) Right away questions come to mind that Who the hell created God?

You see people have limited minds & right away, they hand you these points:

1. Every element has a creator; therefore, some one had to create All of This Universe, and that is God!

2. God is infinite and eternal. He was always there, is here now, & will always be there forever!

Those that do wish to apply the Law of Conservation to God are yet placed in another quandary: how could he create more energy? Is the universe made up of God? We are forms of energy and if He is unable to create energy, either, then he must simply have shaped himself into us. Furthermore, why must He exist? After all, as unflattering as this may sound, we are simply deformed energy. If our base energy has always existed, why go digging for another father figure?


"The alien theory is missing a very important explanation: where was this inhabitable planet? What happened to it?"


What planet? Alien planet? Earth? What? Are you speaking in Tongs? If you are talking about the Alien Planet, it is still here (assumed).

" The Drake Equation need not apply if it was destroyed."


For arguments sake, lets say that It still does exist, Alien planet that is!

In that case, for argument's sake, could you come up with a more reasonable alternation to the Drake Equation? I would surely be interested.

"What sets us apart is our ability to reflect and advance as a species."


Don't undermine Ants. They can reflect & also advance. Actually Ants are far superior than many creationists including Muslim!



I know that you were surely joking. However, allow me to point out that both you and I had Muslim ancestors, regardless of why that is. Muslims did contribute to many studies, including science. I am not asking you to respect the religion itself, but at least respect our ancestors by not categorizing them as evil simply due to religion.

"Agar bekhAi madAdeh nono, cheshmhAyeh to mizaneh dodo
-Ancient Persian Proverb"


The hell is this? Is it in Dahati accent? Is this a kind o Ancient Proverb, created by you?

I cannot believe you called my accent Dahati, and you have not even heard me speak! My honor is wounded. Yes, this ancient proverb was created by me when I was naught but 6; therefore, it is quite ancient!


In that case, heres a Fel Bedahe (spontaneous) one for you:

Agar bekhahi mamlekati pishrafte va bedune shar,
Bayasti bezani emshi bar Quran o Gav o Guspand o Khar!


heres another one just for you:

Dar Iran, Qater-i micharid dar baq,
Eslam amad o qater tabdil shod be olaq!


That is indeed Devolution of Qater to Olaq!

You like?
I love creating spontaneous poetry. Read my "Divan-e Hajviyat" sometimes!


Thank you for sharing those with me. Have you considered getting published?
That was banamak, in all seriousness. I do hope, however, that we will not be oversimplistic in our analysis of the problems facing our homeland today. Nothing was perfect under Zoroastrianism and nothing is perfect under Islam. Does that mean Zoroastrianism is inferior? Certainly not! It means that the core of the problem is religious intolerance and the combination of religion and state, a line that your beloved President is consistently trying to do away with in the country founded upon the very ideas of religious freedom and separation of church and state! What Iran needs to do away with the problems that religions has brought her throughout her history is the same kind of law that the American Civil Liberties Union strives to preserve: religious freedom, so long as it conforms to common law! Suppose all Christians tried to imitate the Bible and God as He is in the Bible. Take for instance, this line from Genesis: The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them.
Sounds like something al Qaeda members recounting history would be saying, no? Or take some samples of God's kindness from Exodus: Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.
Thank goodness for common law forcing a more peaceful interpretation of the Bible (excluding the likes of James Kopp and other terrorists).

Ezat ziyad Haji

Sepasgozaram, agha.

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Postby Ahreeman X » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:01 pm

In the name of:

Our Father @ Under
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Our Son @ Above
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and The Dark Spirit connecting The Two
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We shall start this piece!

Dear Kafer: :diablo:

I am taking time off creating The New IPC Website, just to talk to you! Members are giving me the dirty look & telling me (with their eyes), go back to web design & stop goofing off! Damn, you better be good enough & worthy!

Primarily, before I even talk to you, lets HIT you with some questions (SAVAK Style):

How long (years/months) is it you follow IPC?
Are you an Atheist (Zindiq) or just a person with No Religion (Kafer)?
Are you a man, woman or in between?!
Are you a Scientist or a Scientific Person?
Are you a Full Blown Evolutionist or Creationist?
Are you, philosophically, a Materialist, Idealist or an Agnostic?
Have you grown up as a Muslim? Shiite?
What is your political ideology?


Now, :magnify: you assume that every IPC Reader is a Rocket Scientist. It is true that IPC Members & readers are of the brightest of Iran & Beyond, & it is also true that some of the discussions here are brain stimulating & it is also true that unlike your average Iranian forum on Internet (created for Belly & Under Belly of Pure Persian Breeds of Cows, Sheep & Donkeys), IPC is a narrow gleams of light in the absolute dark; however, do not automatically assume that everyone here must be wise of all trades! So, after mentioning this, it would be nice for you to first, tell the folks, what is the Drake Equation, before you go ahead & bring it into the discussion, don't you think?

Let me make your work simple & post this preview, so people would know what the hell are you talking about:

While working at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia, Dr. Frank Drake conceived a means to mathematically estimate the number of worlds that might harbor beings with technology sufficient to communicate across the vast gulfs of interstellar space. The Drake Equation, as it came to be known, was formulated in 1961 and is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Drake Equation: :teacher:

N = R fp ne fl fi fc L

R is the rate of star formation within the Galaxy, expressed in stars per year;

fp is the fraction of stars that form planets;

ne is the average number of planets each such star possesses, which are capable of supporting life;

fl is the fraction of those planets where life actually occurs;

fi is the fraction of life-bearing planets where intelligence arises;

fc is the fraction of intelligent life-bearing planets where intelligent beings develop the ability to communicate beyond their own world; and

L is the length of time, in years, that such communications remain detectable.


Now,

N, is the estimated number of detectable civilizations.

For more info, visit these links:

Drake Equation: Beyond (very informative)
click "cancel" button for network password.
http://www.station1.net/DouglasJones/drake.htm

Drake Equation: Definition
http://www.setileague.org/general/drake.htm

Drake Equation: Calculation
http://www.pbs.org/lifebeyondearth/listening/drake.html

Drake Equation: Test
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/To ... ation.html

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Now that we are all wise to the Drake Equation, then we shall start!

Secondary, I would like to post a few links for you read, so you do comprehend better on "Where I am coming from":

My Thesis on the Fundamental Question of Philosophy:

"Where did everything come from"?

X Philosophy :duality:

Brain & Mind
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =2171#2171

Philosophical Corner
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =2173#2173

Atheist Wisdom
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... .php?t=525

Famous Atheist Expressions & Idioms
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... .php?t=526

Above were written or compiled by yours truly!
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Third, I do not know how long is it that you follow IPC, so please understand that IPC Website was a huge general website which has been eliminated off the net by Hizbollah. Now, we are working hard to hopefully soon, put the New IPC Website back on the air.

If the site would be on the air, then I could have easily refer you to a few article written by others or myself & end the discussion here! But now, I must dig deeper & write more in respond to your points.

_______________

Now lets roll, :bikerjunior:

"Lord, "


An Atheist such as you, calling for Lord! Shame on you! I want you to get down on four & give me 50 push ups! Next time it will be 100. Get a grip, will ya?

"what happened to Persian hospitality?"


This place is the closest you get to Where our dear Father resides @ Under! Therefore, we punish the new comers with a Hellish Opener before we hug them tight with Bear Hugs & Persian Hospitality! Its an old IPC Tradition!

" Was that a gust of cold wind I felt? "


There is never a Cold Draft in this place! This place is always Hot as Hell, warm & cosey, burning Hot like Hell! If you look carefully, you will see Elvis, Marlene & James Morrison are also here taking a Hot Bath in the Large Pot, boiling on top of the fire, @ the corner!
:devpimp:
We will give you so much Persian Flattery mixed with Heat that it will hurt (burning Hot)!

"Aram bash"


:sergeant: Drop down & give me another 50 push ups & not girlie push ups! How dare you told Ahreeman to be quiet?!

"Those that do wish to apply the Law of Conservation to God are yet placed in another quandary: how could he create more energy? Is the universe made up of God? We are forms of energy and if He is unable to create energy, either, then he must simply have shaped himself into us. Furthermore, why must He exist? After all, as unflattering as this may sound, we are simply deformed energy. If our base energy has always existed, why go digging for another father figure? "


=D> Well put. I enjoyed that! And when I say I enjoyed some writing, I do not Shiite you or Persian Flatterize you, yet I mean it!

The element of God is spirit. Check:

Brain & Mind
http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club/vi ... =2171#2171

Therefore, it does not cover by the Conservation Law of .............

"In that case, for argument's sake, could you come up with a more reasonable alternation to the Drake Equation? I would surely be interested."


It is not about an Alternation or Alteration or Alternative to the Drake Equation. The Drake Equation is a wonderful piece of logic; however, my Alien Factor is just a Theory, a theory based on scientific facts & sithings. Alien Factor, as you know, is nothing new, it has been going on for ages.

All I am saying is that it is possible that the Mother planet (Aliens) is still alive & well. Aliens had mate with our Mothers (Neanderthals) & we got created! Thats the Missing Link that Darwin was looking for & thats the Jump that Einstein was looking for! Thats all.

"I know that you were surely joking."


:devbrowed: One thing you will learn about me is that no one exactly knows of when or if, I am joking! I always talk in a manner that I keep the listener in suspense! They ask themselves, is he joking? Is this another humor piece by him? Is he serious? Is he..............

I have learned this kind o double talk from our dearly departed Asadollah Alam, Minister of Courthouse in Imperial Iran or as I refer to him, Uncle Alam! Another thing I learned from him was to find all kinds of info on the other party, without revealing much about myself! Alam was an amazing man!

Now back to the subject,

" However, allow me to point out that both you and I had Muslim ancestors, regardless of why that is. Muslims did contribute to many studies, including science. I am not asking you to respect the religion itself, but at least respect our ancestors by not categorizing them as evil simply due to religion."


Uno, speak for yourself! Heres my ancestory:

:devcool: 3 generations of Atheist on Fathers side
:angel: 3 generations of Non Denominational Creationists (only believe in God) on mothers side

Duo, No Muslim in my immediate family; however, as a Qajar, I must admit that there were plenty of Superstitious Muslim in my dynasty! But I always wondered if my great Ancestor "Aqa Mohamad Khan-e Qajar", Ahreeman Bless his soul, was a Kafer or not! He was a great man. What I like most about him was his taste for Bloodshed! Nothing like a good Bloody Bloodshed!
:CS:
All this talk about blood, makes me thirsty, let me grab a Cranberry Juice Glass & then continue.......... Hmmmmmmmmm Ummmmmmmm delicious! Cranberry Juice is the closest you can get to the taste of Blood, without actually tasting it! Kind o like Artificial Blood!
:lush:
Back to subject we go.......... I tend to drift away from the subject! Blood does that to me!

Tres, Are you ready? Here we go,

Islam & Muslim have devoted nothing to the Human History except War, Murder, Death, Disease, Ignorance & Sexual Perversions!
:samur: :arabj:
Every bit of scientific, poetic, philosophical & Literature progress which you see in the history of Islam, has not been done by Islam, yet they have been done, by the majority, through the hands of Captured Cultures' Scientists, Poets, Authors, Philosophers & Writers such as vastly by Persians & some by others such as Cartagenians (Tunis), Egyptians, Turks, etc.

Once the ingenuity of the captured cultures had dried up by the Reactionary Forces of Islam, then the Islamic Culture & Superiority had collapsed! People like Family of Barmakis were the factors which were keeping the Islamic Empire glorious & alive. Arabo_Muslim & AIOG (Arabo_Islamic Occupational Government) were only Barbaric Reactionary Forces. Every glory in the Islamic Era had been achieved by Captured Cultures especially Persians.

:ayatollah: Islam in its nature is a Reactionary, Anti Science, Anti Human, Anti Women philosophy.

I do not credit Islam for a single progress in human history. And I can prove this via historical facts. Wait till we put up the new site & read my books.

But then of course Islam was progressive in comparison to Barbaric Arab Tribal Cultures around the Arabian Peninsula! But Islam wasn't even progressive in comparison to many local Arab civilizations of the Arabian Peninsula! Islam destroyed many Arab Progressive Civilizations such as:

Heirah
Lakhmid
Yemen
Kheivah

etc.

:restpeace: Islam destroyed many cultures in & out of the Arabian Peninsula. It is amazing that we (Persian Culture) are still alive! Or best said whatever which has left of us!

Again, I hate to argue philosophy with people, when our site is not up. Because I can easily refer to one of my books or mini series or articles on the site & respond to you & close the case! I guess, you have to wait till we put up the site & then I can refer to you, many of my writings about this subject. I bet I can convince you through historical facts!

Conclusion:

Islam is not a religion, yet a dangerous political ideology!
:namaz2: :namaz: :suicidebomber: :hazardeous: :skull: :ayatollah:
"I cannot believe you called my accent Dahati,"


Why? Do you have something against Dahatis?
:samad:

Drop down & give me another 50 push ups! If you keep on putting your foot in your mouth, such as this! Then by the end of this discussion, you will be doing hundreds of push ups! Well, look @ it this way, arguments with Ahreeman can be healthy for your body! I make sure that you will develope your muscles! We like to keep people in shape!

This here is IPC & you will be discussing with "IPC Immortal Guards"! The Last of The Persians on Earth!
:IRG: :IRG: :IRG:

" and you have not even heard me speak! "


My son, Ahreeman is everywhere! :firedvl: You might think that you can hide issues from him, but Ahreeman is truly everywhere! Right now, He might even be looking @ you through your Web Cam, without you even noticing!

"My honor is wounded. "


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........Ok come here, let me kiss you on both cheeks, let me kiss it & make you feel better! Ok thats enough, no kiss on the lips, don't get fresh now, you hear?!

"Yes, this ancient proverb was created by me when I was naught but 6; therefore, it is quite ancient!"


Ahhhh a comedian amongst us! I love comics! :devlaugh:

"Thank you for sharing those with me. Have you considered getting published? "


Once again alas the website is down! Yes, I wrote many books, mini series, articles, .............when I get time, maybe I also add some hard copies for sales, to them!

Reading my Divan-e Hajviyat is a must!

"Thank goodness for common law forcing a more peaceful interpretation of the Bible "


Ahhhhhhhhh a man who knows his holy books! I respect that. Myself, I never reject anything before reading it first! All holy Books must be read before rejections!

That's nothing! Read Book of Mormon! Jesus Christ returns to Earth, in Americas & amongst Indians!
:out:
I don't know which is the most Cockameimi Holy Book in the history of Earth? Quran or Book of Mormon! Hmmmmmmmmmm I must think about that one!?

"Sepasgozaram, agha.

With Holy blessings,
Kaafar"


We read your writing & we liked! Seems like there is a brain in your skull! That is very surprising for Iranians! Iranian's Brain Stimulations often seizes as far as readings in Iranian.com or Taktaz, maybe Javanan & Etela'at Haftegi! However, we have no shortage of Gav O Guspandan in Iran! You see, I enjoy collecting Brains in IPC. You can call me,

I, The Collector!

Khosheman Amad Kafer! Khosheman amad!
(Damn for a second, I sounded like Naseredin Shah!)

Ahreeman Bless

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Re: Alien Factor Philosophy

Postby Kaafer » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:46 pm

Dear mutually damned brother,
*edit: I forgot to include some background music to match our theme! This will help you to remember God's words but is dark enough to prevent nausea:
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3F0T ... WSKWQB9KDY

Now, back to business.

AhreemanX wrote:In the name of:

Our Father @ Under


Our Son @ Above


and The Dark Spirit connecting The Two

In the name of the Son, the Spirit and the Holy Ghost, where has the mother run off to?! She is The Dark Spirit, perhaps?


I am taking time off creating The New IPC Website, just to talk to you! Members are giving me the dirty look & telling me (with their eyes), go back to web design & stop goofing off! Damn, you better be good enough & worthy!

Is IPC an actual organization? Is this a PAC? Is there an actual headquarters? Who are these 'members'? :-k


Primarily, before I even talk to you, lets HIT you with some questions (SAVAK Style):

:pill-booze:
You would be amazed at how wonderfully Jim Beam accompanies cyanide pills!
How long (years/months) is it you follow IPC?

I came across IPC first at some point last year, I believe; perhaps even before that (if it has been around that long). It was hosted by AOL when I first came across the site. I did not pay it much attention before, as I thought it is simply another site created by an overzealous, hyper-ideological boy. However, about a month ago or so, I came across a piece you had written about your upbringing, the life you lived and where you are at now. It caught my attention and I was impressed with your detailed writing. I had not had much luck finding a site where I could hold an in-depth debate with mature and intellectual people, as opposed to excitable and defensive kids.

Are you an Atheist (Zindiq) or just a person with No Religion (Kafer)?

I am Zindiq and therefore a Kafer. :devnoid: That is my take on the "God" matter, anyhow.
Remember, though, there are so many different interpretations on the 'God' issue, that if we were able to prove through science in absolute terms when the 'beginning' was, or that time can and does exist eternally, half of the world's religious people (in the least!) would claim that it works in line with their religion; that the Holy Books are allegorical; that 'God' is just another word for nature; that our subservience to God simply means that we cannot win over nature; etcetera. I say: no need to complicate science and reason just to help us cope with mortality!
As a prepubescent child, I would sit in my room and contemplate the matter of God. I reasoned the possibilities and the improbabilities, as well as the characteristics applied to God and the relativity to the human psyche. (An brief but interesting read is a book from the '70s called, Your God Is Too Small. It incorporates many of the right arguments to arrive to the wrong conclusion. :-? ) Myself, I arrived to the conclusion that atheism is most logical. However, the guilt complexes imbedded in our brains require reasoning over a certain period of time in order to overcome them. When it was official that I had given up the God fantasy, I went to my bookshelf, plucked out my Bible, kissed it and fell upon my knees. I subsequently apologized. I knew my actions directly contradicted each other at that point, but I also recognized that my decision was based on logic and my behavior at that moment was motivated only by emotion. However, I am grateful to the child version of myself for choosing reason over comfort.

Are you a man, woman or in between?!

I sense discrimination! Have you forgotten about us rare hermaphrodites?!

Are you a Scientist or a Scientific Person?

I will let you be the judge of that.
Are you a Full Blown Evolutionist or Creationist?
Are you, philosophically, a Materialist, Idealist or an Agnostic?
Have you grown up as a Muslim? Shiite?
What is your political ideology?

What is this, the Persian Inquisition?! Patience is a virtue, my good fellow. I do not want to ruin the surprise! Really, I think that an exchange of ideas has the most pure potential if interlocutors do not allow preconceptions to interfere. You will learn more about this complicated organ in my skull and I will learn more about yours. I foresee many fruitful conversations ahead of us! Be warned, however, that I am a fan of Socratic discourse as well as Devil's Advocate (which may work to your benefit, dear Ahreeman!) I may also use them in conjunction with each other. It is the best way for us to examine all matters multi-dimensionally. I am also vague about my identity because I want to be able to express myself freely without fear of oppressive political consequences. I'm sure you understand where I am coming from.

Now, :magnify: you assume that every IPC Reader is a Rocket Scientist. It is true that IPC Members & readers are of the brightest of Iran & Beyond, & it is also true that some of the discussions here are brain stimulating & it is also true that unlike your average Iranian forum on Internet (created for Belly & Under Belly of Pure Persian Breeds of Cows, Sheep & Donkeys), IPC is a narrow gleams of light in the absolute dark; however, do not automatically assume that everyone here must be wise of all trades! So, after mentioning this, it would be nice for you to first, tell the folks, what is the Drake Equation, before you go ahead & bring it into the discussion, don't you think?


Really, I was not expecting a sharper equation from you than from those who devote their lives to this stuff. What I really meant to ask was the following:
Why do you think it is likely that there is a form of superintelligent life somewhat nearby in our universe that we cannot detect? If they were intelligent enough so many millennia ago that they were able to travel here and breed with us, why would they come here, leave crop circles and such and disappear? That is strange behavior for such intelligent beings, no?!
I will surely check out the writings that you linked me to in the days to follow, and we can continue to share our ideas on many more topics.
:aristocrat:

Third, I do not know how long is it that you follow IPC, so please understand that IPC Website was a huge general website which has been eliminated off the net by Hizbollah. Now, we are working hard to hopefully soon, put the New IPC Website back on the air.


Could you explain how Hezbollah managed to do such a thing and how you know it was Hezbollah?


"Lord, "


An Atheist such as you, calling for Lord! Shame on you! I want you to get down on four & give me 50 push ups! Next time it will be 100. Get a grip, will ya?

I didn't realize I had signed up for boot camp! I am afraid it will be hard to get me to bow down. You have met your match: one so por-roo that he barges into your home with no introduction and refuses to bow down!

This place is the closest you get to Where our dear Father resides @ Under! Therefore, we punish the new comers with a Hellish Opener before we hug them tight with Bear Hugs & Persian Hospitality! Its an old IPC Tradition!


That is an old Kafar tradition, as well! It seems we are in luck, then.


There is never a Cold Draft in this place! This place is always Hot as Hell, warm & cosey, burning Hot like Hell! If you look carefully, you will see Elvis, Marlene & James Morrison are also here taking a Hot Bath in the Large Pot, boiling on top of the fire, @ the corner!
:devpimp:
We will give you so much Persian Flattery mixed with Heat that it will hurt (burning Hot)!

I always suspected Jim Morrison to be too talented to land in heaven! I am feeling right at home.


"Aram bash"


:sergeant: Drop down & give me another 50 push ups & not girlie push ups! How dare you told Ahreeman to be quiet?!


I was not telling you to be quiet, my good man. I meant aram as in calm, relaxed.


=D> Well put. I enjoyed that! And when I say I enjoyed some writing, I do not Shiite you or Persian Flatterize you, yet I mean it!

Ghorbanet. :devcool:

It is not about an Alternation or Alteration or Alternative to the Drake Equation. The Drake Equation is a wonderful piece of logic; however, my Alien Factor is just a Theory, a theory based on scientific facts & sithings. Alien Factor, as you know, is nothing new, it has been going on for ages.

All I am saying is that it is possible that the Mother planet (Aliens) is still alive & well. Aliens had mate with our Mothers (Neanderthals) & we got created! Thats the Missing Link that Darwin was looking for & thats the Jump that Einstein was looking for! Thats all.


I require some more convincing, but I do find the inquiry to be quite interesting.


:devbrowed: One thing you will learn about me is that no one exactly knows of when or if, I am joking! I always talk in a manner that I keep the listener in suspense! They ask themselves, is he joking? Is this another humor piece by him? Is he serious? Is he..............

I have learned this kind o double talk from our dearly departed Asadollah Alam, Minister of Courthouse in Imperial Iran or as I refer to him, Uncle Alam! Another thing I learned from him was to find all kinds of info on the other party, without revealing much about myself! Alam was an amazing man!

Oh, dear. If we are going to be using the same tactics toward each other, we may have some conflict. :-k


Uno, speak for yourself! Heres my ancestory:

:devcool: 3 generations of Atheist on Fathers side
:angel: 3 generations of Non Denominational Creationists (only believe in God) on mothers side

Duo, No Muslim in my immediate family; however, as a Qajar, I must admit that there were plenty of Superstitious Muslim in my dynasty! But I always wondered if my great Ancestor "Aqa Mohamad Khan-e Qajar", Ahreeman Bless his soul, was a Kafer or not! He was a great man. What I like most about him was his taste for Bloodshed! Nothing like a good Bloody Bloodshed!

By ancestry, I did not mean immediate ancestry or even recent. I was referring to those further back, such as those you subsequently mentioned. All I am saying is that a person cannot be judged by religious affiliation alone, for there are many different kinds of Muslims and some battle the extremism of others.

:CS:
All this talk about blood, makes me thirsty, let me grab a Cranberry Juice Glass & then continue.......... Hmmmmmmmmm Ummmmmmmm delicious! Cranberry Juice is the closest you can get to the taste of Blood, without actually tasting it! Kind o like Artificial Blood!
:lush:
Back to subject we go.......... I tend to drift away from the subject! Blood does that to me!


A fellow vampire! Perhaps, then, I am a Qajar descendant and I just don't know it!

Islam & Muslim have devoted nothing to the Human History except War, Murder, Death, Disease, Ignorance & Sexual Perversions!
:samur: :arabj:
Every bit of scientific, poetic, philosophical & Literature progress which you see in the history of Islam, has not been done by Islam, yet they have been done, by the majority, through the hands of Captured Cultures' Scientists, Poets, Authors, Philosophers & Writers such as vastly by Persians & some by others such as Cartagenians (Tunis), Egyptians, Turks, etc.


Define please what you mean by "captured" scientists, etc.

:ayatollah: Islam in its nature is a Reactionary, Anti Science, Anti Human, Anti Women philosophy.

Islam is more scientific than Xtianity, but I agree in that all of the Abrahamic religions go against science, if not simply because they put the fear in the people to submit to it without doubting the God theory!

I do not credit Islam for a single progress in human history. And I can prove this via historical facts. Wait till we put up the new site & read my books.

I was not aware that religion was supposed to be credited for human progress! I thought it was meant for guidance.

But then of course Islam was progressive in comparison to Barbaric Arab Tribal Cultures around the Arabian Peninsula! But Islam wasn't even progressive in comparison to many local Arab civilizations of the Arabian Peninsula! Islam destroyed many Arab Progressive Civilizations such as:

Heirah
Lakhmid
Yemen
Kheivah

etc.


You lost me at Lakhmid! Those civilizations are perhaps your forte more than mine, so do share.

:restpeace: Islam destroyed many cultures in & out of the Arabian Peninsula. It is amazing that we (Persian Culture) are still alive! Or best said whatever which has left of us!

Again, I hate to argue philosophy with people, when our site is not up. Because I can easily refer to one of my books or mini series or articles on the site & respond to you & close the case! I guess, you have to wait till we put up the site & then I can refer to you, many of my writings about this subject. I bet I can convince you through historical facts!


...Are you trying to talk me out of my faith?! :mad1:

Conclusion:

Islam is not a religion, yet a dangerous political ideology!
:namaz2: :namaz: :suicidebomber: :hazardeous: :skull: :ayatollah:


But it IS a religion! However, you are right in that humans have always used religion as a political tool and it has always led to disaster and denial of equal rights and representation! Individually, progressive Muslims (those that I know) do not pose a danger.


Why? Do you have something against Dahatis?
:samad:


Hehehe. There is nothing wrong with Dahatis. Rednecks are kind, too; especially those in Kentucky.

Drop down & give me another 50 push ups! If you keep on putting your foot in your mouth, such as this! Then by the end of this discussion, you will be doing hundreds of push ups! Well, look @ it this way, arguments with Ahreeman can be healthy for your body! I make sure that you will develope your muscles! We like to keep people in shape!

I can see that! You work on my muscles and I will make sure you continue to exercise your brain muscles. Deal?


My son, Ahreeman is everywhere! :firedvl: You might think that you can hide issues from him, but Ahreeman is truly everywhere! Right now, He might even be looking @ you through your Web Cam, without you even noticing!


Ma pesareh shoma shodim? When did this happen? AJAB! :-s That conflicts with my plan to adopt you as the son that I never had! I will need to meditate my way to a solution. :-k
And could you at least turn the webcam off while I use the restroom?! That is what always gave me an eery feeling about God: he is always watching, even when you are doing your business! That is just unnecessary. ](*,)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........Ok come here, let me kiss you on both cheeks, let me kiss it & make you feel better! Ok thats enough, no kiss on the lips, don't get fresh now, you hear?!


Bah bah! I feel truly at home now. The only reason I didn't rubusi initially is because I was overcoming a cold! (<--Typical Iranian damage control!) As for not getting fresh - hey, this is your chance to prove that you really do welcome me to your home! 'Don't get fresh now' chieh?! Tarbiatam khoob chizieh!

Ahhhh a comedian amongst us! I love comics! :devlaugh:


That is a sign of a smart man, my friend! Laughter relieves stress, increases immunity, stabilizes blood pressure and does a host of great things for you!

Once again alas the website is down! Yes, I wrote many books, mini series, articles, .............when I get time, maybe I also add some hard copies for sales, to them!

Your next project ought to be poetry. :aristocrat:

Reading my Divan-e Hajviyat is a must!

Show me the way, Savior!

Ahhhhhhhhh a man who knows his holy books! I respect that. Myself, I never reject anything before reading it first! All holy Books must be read before rejections!

I cannot claim I have read the whole Bible from front to back. In fact, a pastor called my house in my early teenage years and asked me if I've been reading it and how it's been coming along. I was brutally honest: I told him 2 pages of it literally put me to sleep in the afternoon! I still do have a Bible somewhere and it does make for interesting reading (though parts were altered throughout history, including during the witchhunts). I also know enough of it to not give any credence to it!

That's nothing! Read Book of Mormon! Jesus Christ returns to Earth, in Americas & amongst Indians!
:out:

Of course! They fell walked over from Israel to America before the tectonic plates shifted. This is just obvious history. Do not dare question it!
...

I don't know which is the most Cockameimi Holy Book in the history of Earth? Quran or Book of Mormon! Hmmmmmmmmmm I must think about that one!?


Hah, they are all cockamamy! Polytheistic religions at least had more symbolic power.

We read your writing & we liked! Seems like there is a brain in your skull! That is very surprising for Iranians! Iranian's Brain Stimulations often seizes as far as readings in Iranian.com or Taktaz, maybe Javanan & Etela'at Haftegi! However, we have no shortage of Gav O Guspandan in Iran! You see, I enjoy collecting Brains in IPC. You can call me,

I, The Collector!

Khosheman Amad Kafer! Khosheman amad!
(Damn for a second, I sounded like Naseredin Shah!)

Who is 'we'? Have I joined a cult of sorts? A cult of IPC Immortal Guards?! I can feel my brain being pickled and cast by webcam to the IPC Guards for cruel amusement! Such is the price of going down in history, eh?

Ghorbaanet; here is to many more long-winded posts to come! :happy06:

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Postby Ahreeman X » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:00 am

Kafer:

You have asked many questions. Once the new site will be up, you will totally get all your answers. In a meanwhile I try to answer some of the major ones.

"Is IPC an actual organization?"


IPC Operations is an actual organization which has operation members.
IPC Club is a forum which has club members.
IPC Website is a site which has readers.

IPC is not a political party, nor a particular political organization with a particular political ideology. Our members are members & sympathizers of various political parties of Iran from a wide range of Monarchists all the way to Nazis & from Communists all the way to Muslim.

" Is this a PAC?"


Pac O Wild Wolves that is!

" Is there an actual headquarters?"


There is an IPC Office in San Diego which harmonizes & facilitates the communication between IPC Operation members in Iran (Inxile), outside Iran (Exile) & In between (Liaison). Office acts as a nerve center.

" Who are these 'members'?"


They are around. Some you see in the club, some you don't. Our IPC members never mix & mingle with new commers! You might say, they have a chip on their shoulders! To tell you the truth, @ first, IPC members (Operation & Club) did not even believe that there is intelligent life form outside IPC! Basically, IPC Operation members, Club members & Readers, believe that IPC is the center of the universe, everything outside IPC is primitive, & we are the superior intellect & anyone outside IPC are inferior beasts! It is an intellectual delima!

But then again, once a while someone like you shows up, & like Gallileo, proves that, not necessarily, every living creature outside IPC, is a primitive primate! Afterall there is intelligent lifeform outside IPC!

Hell, for years, we believed that all Iranian Forums are Cages to hold various types o Apes occupied in them. Are you telling us, there are other intelligent Iranians residing around cyberspace, amongst other sites, forums & out & about cyber land? Impossible! You don't say?! We thought they were all Orangutans & Gorrilas! You don't say?!

"You would be amazed at how wonderfully Jim Beam accompanies cyanide pills! "


Ahhhhhhhhhh another Iranian Suicidal Alcoholic!

"if it has been around that long"


IPC has been around for 5 years.

"I did not pay it much attention before, as I thought it is simply another site created by an overzealous, hyper-ideological boy"


Well, I must say, I am an Over Grown Boy, in all the right places, but Over Zealous! I don't know!

"I came across a piece you had written about your upbringing, the life you lived and where you are at now. It caught my attention and I was impressed with your detailed writing"


It takes my Homelessness & Hardship stories to finally get you here! Usually SEX sells but in your case, Misery sold!

"I had not had much luck finding a site where I could hold an in-depth debate with mature and intellectual people, as opposed to excitable and defensive kids."


I am trying to tell you over & over, its a jungle out there & there lives Apes in them jungles! Thats why we fenced IPC, built it on top of the hill, away from Bozon (O Zone around the Bozos) to separate our civilization from the apes! Damn, that sounded like "City on top of the Hill" piece that Reagan used!

You must be from the future running around the jungle out there! All we see out there are Apes in Planet of the Apes! and then you found Salvation (IPC)!

"I went to my bookshelf, plucked out my Bible, kissed it and fell upon my knees. I subsequently apologized. I knew my actions directly contradicted each other at that point,"


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Another guilty contienced Atheist!
Destruction of Faith is the first step towards Science, Logic & Atheism!

"but I also recognized that my decision was based on logic and my behavior at that moment was motivated only by emotion. However, I am grateful to the child version of myself for choosing reason over comfort."


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh another Lamb O Allah who found salvation in the Warmth of Hell!
Ahreeman Bless you my son!
Come here & sit in the pot of boiling water, let me stir it up with spices!
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I can taste your brain, good, it needs some paprika though!

"What is this, the Persian Inquisition?!"


Yes indeed!

"Patience is a virtue, my good fellow. I do not want to ruin the surprise!"


Damn, for a second you sounded like Robert! But then again Robert's Persian was worth Shiite! Or maybe it wasn't! Hmmmmmmmmm are you sure you are not Robert? We are still suspicious that you might be an old IPC member, Fragging with us! We are suspicious in nature.

Also it is very hard to believe that there are intelligent life forms outside our circle (IPC), & wondering out there in Iranian Cyber Jungle (Planet of The Apes)!

"I foresee many fruitful conversations ahead of us!"


Yes indeed. Eventually our members will open up to you. They always treat outsiders as Shiite @ first! But then they open up!

You cannot blame them, they are rare species of endangered form! They are lasts of their kinds! Do you know how long it took me to travel around universe & collect each member of IPC from around the universe? Now I protect & serve them. I put them on the book shelves of IPC. Each one is a gigantic book of knowledge. Each one is so valuable, simply priceless! It took me a lifetime to collect them all!

I, The Collector!
Collector of Brains!

So as you see, IPC is not just another Iranian Bull Shiite, Bang O Salavat Forum made for Morons!

IPC is a Library of Book Shelves, full of the Last Copies of Out of Print, Rare Books, from around the Universe, collected, displayed & cherrished by yours truely!

IPC is The Beyonder's Library!
Us, The Beyonders!

I drawn the picture. Was that Graphic & Visual enough for you?

"I am also vague about my identity because I want to be able to express myself freely without fear of oppressive political consequences. I'm sure you understand where I am coming from. "


Ahhhhhhhh a smart Cookie who do not want to be judged upon his ideology, identity & breed! We only judge people by the amount of their gray matter in their skulls! We are extremely prejudist against stupid people! Otherwise, we are all from all sides of the philosophical & political spectrum!

"Why do you think it is likely that there is a form of super intelligent life somewhat nearby in our universe that we cannot detect?"


Because we have primitive tools.

" If they were intelligent enough so many millennia ago that they were able to travel here and breed with us, why would they come here, leave crop circles and such and disappear?"


Crop Circles are works of Scotts & Red Necks! And Aleins did not dissapear. They have been observing us for milleniums. It called UFOs which you see in the skies. We are only one of their many experiments. They do not want to interfere with the results of the experiment. As a scientist, you must know that we shall not interfere during the process of the experiment or it might effect the results of the experiment. Earth is a gigantic Aquarium & we are Ants in this Ant Farm called Earth. We are an experiment. Millenums might be too long of a period for us but in time/space frame, according to their standards, its nothing! They are the watchers. They are watching to see if & how much we are capable to evolve to a higher intellect level of existence. So far, I do not know if we impressed them or not! What say you?!

" That is strange behavior for such intelligent beings, no?!"


No. It called a scientific experiment & we are the Frankenstein Monsters! In their time frame (Theory of Relativity of Einstein), milleniums are only a few years. We are only tube babies. Unfortunatley, human race is too stupid & occupied with this Bull Shiite God/Religion Delima to see beyond & above into this scientific theory. Planet of The Apes indeed! Some Apes are Muslim & then some are Christian! But they all fail to see beyond their limited intellect & observe the Real Deal! And if they do, they will end up shattering their childish God story! Their whole universe & belief system will crash. They will be like lost children! Their brain capacity cannot take it! Their whole silly little universe, based upon The Creator & The Creation & The Bozo Messengers will crash right in front of their eyes!

It is very hard to take away their Story Books (Quran, Bible, Tora, etc) away from them & open their eyes to the big picture. Apes in the Planet of The Apes, thats all they are. As Alahazrat used to say: "Iranians are like Children & I am their Father. They will be lost without me!" And 1979, obviously proved so! You cannot teach an Ape, The Rocket Science & let him loose in the lab! They destroy everything in site (1979). Do you get it?

Thats why we are trying to give them something to believe in. We cannot take away Islam from them without giving them Zoroastrianism to believe in. Lesser of the two Evils indeed! Their primitive minds are incapable of thinking beyond their Gods & Prophets & Holy Books! If we take away these toys from them, they will simply shrivel up & die! They are like fragile, simple children who believe in their fairy tales! We are just trying to expand their horizons!

Just imagine how amusing these primitive folks must look to the Aliens! @ first they even believed Aliens were Gods & the first Mixed Breeds are The Messengers!

"I will surely check out the writings that you linked me to in the days to follow, and we can continue to share our ideas on many more topics"


Yes indeed. Read one page of IPC a day, will keep the Holy Books & Holy Messengers away! I tell you, God must be an arrogant, Narcissist Psychopath! He expects you to worship him & if you don't, he will destroy you with natural disasters! Thats what all the Holy books say! Allah is specifically a Mental Case! Just read Sourat of Quran!

"Could you explain how Hezbollah managed to do such a thing and how you know it was Hezbollah?


Read:

Iran Politics Club attacked by Hizbollah!
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewto ... 3514be722d

We have inside info on Yahoo & AOL. Some of our members are even old employees of these companies. For instance Kuku Sabzi is an Ex Employee of AOL. She is only one example out of others.

"have met your match"


Ahhhhhhhhhhh you think? You are indeed a New Toy for us. You have aroused our curiosity.

"I always suspected Jim Morrison to be too talented to land in heaven! "


Oh yes indeed. Sadeq Hedayat, Forouq Farokhzad, Samad Behrangi were others.........

"Define please what you mean by "captured" scientists, etc."


Captured Cultures, means Cultures Conquered, Captured, reduced to slavery & learned to live in prison as slaves by their Arabo_Muslim Masters. Iran was one. Wait till the new website is up & then I refer you to many articles written by moi, such as "Domestication of Persians".

All these so called Muslim Scientists were indeed mostly Persians, but under the rule of Islam.

"I was not aware that religion was supposed to be credited for human progress! I thought it was meant for guidance."


Islam is not just another religion, it is a dangerous political ideology! Islam spread through force, terror, murder & pillage. So oppresive that the conquered cultures become slaves, so attached to the Masters, that they have identified with the Masters for 1400 years & adding! They see themselves as good Muslim & identify with the Captor (Arabo_Muslim). This is a popular Sociological behavior. The captured identifies with his captor @ first, only to survive, & then it becomes part of his norm to do so!

"You lost me at Lakhmid! Those civilizations are perhaps your forte more than mine, so do share."


Patients my son. Once the site is back up, you can read all my history books, series & articles to know about Lakhmid Kingdom & beyond. I guess you are either telling the truth & you had never heard of IPC before a year ago or maybe you are really pulling a quickie on us as an old member!

".Are you trying to talk me out of my faith?! "


Yes, eventhough a very bright man, yet you might still have some Shiite in your brain! All Iranians do, even Atheists! We are here to shovel the Shiite out of Iranian's brains! Well, all except Lori! She loves Shiite! Have you got some Shiite left in you?!

"Individually, progressive Muslims (those that I know) do not pose a danger. "


There are no such things as progressive Muslims! Its a filthy lie made in Hanoi or in this case made in Mecca! Read:

Types of Muslim
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewto ... 3514be722d

There might be Moderate Muslim but Islam in its nature is Reactionary. A Muslim is basically a product of a backwarded outdated ideology, the same as Monarchy. You dig?!

"There is nothing wrong with Dahatis."


What are you implying? That it is POSSIBLE that there must be something wrong with Dahatis?! Drop down again, another 50 push ups! You keep on sticking your foot in your mouth! I guess there are no wining with me, making statements such as yours!

"I can see that! You work on my muscles and I will make sure you continue to exercise your brain muscles. Deal? "


Deal!

"Ma pesareh shoma shodim?"


All, are Ahreeman's Sons & Daughters. Ahreeman bless you my son. We (The Son @ above) are the representation of Him (The Father @ Under)! And then of course there is the Dark Spirit who connects the two! Amen!

"When did this happen? AJAB! "


Damn, its the skeptic in me! You truly sounded like Liberator for a second! I am so suspicious that you might either be an old member or a new member pulling a quickie upon us! Am I paranoid?! And yet you are perfectly an innocent new member! Aren't you?!

"And could you at least turn the webcam off while I use the restroom?! That is what always gave me an eery feeling about God: he is always watching, even when you are doing your business! That is just unnecessary"


I know, God is always watching & he punishes you if you get off the wagon! God must be a Sadist & prophets must have been his Domination Agents! Pure S&M indeed! Its like he created us & he toyed with us like his toys, he expected worship & when we did not obey, he sent us to Hell to burn! What a pile o crap ala carte, for children to believe in something to keep staying in line.

Heres one for you:

Religion & Gods were created to leash people like Dogs to remain trained, obedient, & loyal pets!

"hey, this is your chance to prove that you really do welcome me to your home! 'Don't get fresh now' chieh?! Tarbiatam khoob chizieh!"


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh another Iranian pervert, who tries to kiss me on the lips in pretence of just being friendly, mannerful & having Persian Flatteries!

"Your next project ought to be poetry. "


I have written many poems, either serious or Hajv. You will read them, once we get the site back up. In a meanwhile surf around poetry room & comedy/silly poetry room.

"Who is 'we'? "


Strange but Robert also asked me the same question, as soon as he entered IPC! Are you sure you are not Robert reincarnate?

We, could be Father @ Under, Son @ above & The Dark Spirit connecting the two!

We, could be IPC Office

We, could be IPC Operation

We, could be us, The Elite Closed Circle of Entities around Ahreeman (Admzad, Camran, Lori, others) & Ahreeman himself!

We, could be a matter of speech, in a way that Aristocracy refers to themselves in plural form. Remember Alahazrat or my beloved Ancestor Aqa Mohamad Khane Qajar always referred to themselves as "We". Old habits never die!

But then again,

We, could be a Universal Force of Consciousness speaking through US, The Ahreeman.

Woooooooooow! Mind blowing! No?

After all, WE, are 666 years old!

Was that enough definition of the "WE" for you, or you need more?!

"Have I joined a cult of sorts? A cult of IPC Immortal Guards?! I can feel my brain being pickled and cast by webcam to the IPC Guards for cruel amusement!"


Did you just notice that? Ha! Of course you did! This is a Cult! Get out while you can! I have tried myself many times to get out, but they are avoiding me to do such! They call me the Cult Leader! How can I get out?!

In this Cult, we have Cultists such as Admzad who washes, rinses & leaves people's brains to dry out in the sun! Then we have Camran Mirza who is a programmer & he reprograms them brains with science & logic! Then we have Lori who has medical training, she is The Head Nurse, she snacks on people's brains! She then, checks their openings, by Jizzing their privates with Javalduz (Jack Needle) & puts a plastic glove on & Finger's their behind very Hard, to make sure they are absolutely purified! She always is fixated to experiment with people's front & back! She is a Ture Sadist! Then there are the rest of the gang who take pokes & bites out of you until they totaly dehumanize you! If you happen to survive the initiation, then they turn you into a Zombie, a creature living inbetween Heavens & Hell in The Twilight Zone, named Intermedio!

(Music @ background) Twilight Zone Theme:

Doodoo Doodoo, Doodoo Doodoo ................. Bababaaaaaaam!

You have not entered a Cult!
You have entered a Gang!
A Gang O Outcasted Life Forms from around the Galaxy!
You have entered The Twilight Zone!

Once your in, you are trapped & will never go back to The Norm! IPC is highly addictive!

I know people who got in 5 years ago & they thought, they joined a Forum, little did they know that they were about to seize their existence as normal human beings & become yet another part of The IPC Monsterous Cult O Occult, Aliens & Hellish Nightmares! Now you see them running around IPC as Beyonders! Ohhhhh children of the Night! They simply amuse me!

Hee Hee Hee How Howl!

Run while you can brother. I tried but they trapped me! Run for your life before they take the humanity out of you! Ohhhhhhhhh the humanity, Ohhhhhhhhhhh where has the humanity gone?! Ohhhhhhhh the Catastrophe! Ohhhhhhhhh save us from This Hellish Cult O IPC! Oh Lord, I call thee......

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz,
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Color TV?!
Lala, Lala, Lalalalalala.......Lala Lala, Lalalalala.....

Remember that one by Janice Joplin?!

"Such is the price of going down in history, eh? "


Oh yes. Once you are in IPC, you will become a Beyonder amongst the Beyonders!

Read:

Social Darwinism and Science of Raciology
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/club/viewto ... 46cadc3fd5

"With much damnation,
Kafar"


Ey Kafar, Mal'oun, Khabis, Baqi, Monafeq, Moshrek, Na Mosalman, live long & prosper!
Maybe in the future we will hold an official Formal Debate in the Debate Room!

Now go away, shoo shoo............ I have a website to build!

Always Remember:

I am pointing @ The Moon, yet many, always fail & they only manage to see the tip of my finger!

cheers

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