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Postby CR » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:42 pm

:roll: ehem ...

Pardon me but with all your intelligence, you must be slow! You have posted over 2000 posts in that forum and still could not figure out what is going on there?!


I checked, he made almost 3000 posts! :D

Perspolis, I don't want to be nasty but for all this time haven't you seen the IRI logo on top of each page? :-k

Ahreeman I'm leaving to North Africa soon, I'll send you an email with everything you required before I leave. Keep safe.

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Postby Jaff Sassani » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:01 am

If the Islamic terrorist organization has weapon and Technologies as does western countries, Russian and Israel. They will kill every male and take the women’s as the sex slaves. Please read the article and see many of the Islamic holy man were married to the slave women by force. The Islamic religions are clamming they freed the slaves during the Prophet Mohammad time. The questions are why these holy men’s has the slave mothers after 200 years of the Prophet Mohammad death.

Please read more of our articles about the unjust rule of the Sayied Arab family in Iran and the use of Islam as a tool for slavery of Eryan (Aryan or Iranian) people for ever.

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Postby Ahreeman X » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 am

Dear Friend:

Only one question:

Then why through your writtings, are you insisting on "Reforming" an "irreformable" Islam? The only way to reform Islam is to destroy it or at least get it out of Iranians' heads! You can't reform Shiite because Shiite is a virus, it infects the brain and eats you alive!

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Postby PERSPOLIS » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:45 am

Sorry for a late reply

you know once upon a time there was this guy who wanted to play poker

he found a place and was going to that place when an stranger told him

hey that poker house is crooked. he said I know it is crooked but it is the

only game in town!!!

IDF is an intelligence counter intelligence military intelligence deception and etc forum but you have to get beyond logos. I achieved what I wanted to achieve using them !!! but without me that forum is finished

they banned me and then changed my name to good guy !!!!

anywho, I agree with your comment about Iran's Internal enemy the so called Islam but you should provide some practical solution for its destruction !!! in another word we know what we have to do , but we need to know how we can do it :-k

I am all ears....
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Postby Jaff Sassani » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:53 pm

I tried my best for over two years but no one listen to me. I know how to destroy the evil but without help will be impossible to accomplish anything. I tried but did not get any ears in the past. I am not sure if I will get any ears now. Thank you for your understanding.
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Re: Pan Iranism and Islam (Pan Arabism)!

Postby Atusa Qajar » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:07 am

Is there really a choice? ](*,)

It comes down to Islam (Pan Arabism) or Iran (Pan Iranism)?
If you think about it hard, you notice we really don’t have much of a choice because areas of gray have made us to create IRI, so we really have no choice but to choose.

I been thinking about this and really saw no alternative but to make a choice.

It all comes down to Islam or Iran because if we mix the two, the country will be pushed to one extreme and soon or late will become a Shiite Empire like Safavids or today’s IRI.

I rather live in an Iranian nation than an Islamic nation. :thumbsup:

How about you? :roll:

I was only thinking about this issue and that’s my wiz about it!

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Postby IPC » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:15 pm

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Re: Pan Iranism and Islam (Pan Arabism)!

Postby Kargozaran » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:17 am

Hey guys Pan this :byefinger:

This is a new world with Islamic Republic of Iran leading it. We are the future and decision makers. We built Iran when you left Iran. We are the minds of Iran not you. We are technocrats and today America has realized that making business with us is the alternative. Iran is the future and America has to deal with it.

Persian racist nationalism is trash. Iran is an Islamic country. Islamic economy has made Iran great and a super power. America is nothing, like jelly in our hands.

Our republic has no room for agitators and enemies of Islam. Islam is a part of Iran. Islamic economy has made Iran a global superpower. We are a factor in global affairs. We have recently bitch slapped America and got 150 billion dollars of our money back. We are nuclear and will always be nuclear and America cannot do anything about it. Deal with it bitches.

Long live Islamic Republic of Iran

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Pan Iranism vs. Islam (Pan Arabism)! - New Edition

Postby CR » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:09 pm

Pan Iranism vs. Islam (Pan Arabism)!
Are Pan Iranism and Islam Compatible?
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Please review the new 2nd edition of the important historical document by Ahreeman X:


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Pan Iranism and Islam (Pan Arabism)!
Ahreeman X
1st Edition: August 8, 2008
2nd Edition: June 27, 2016

Folks:

A while back, I had a discussion with a few friends inside and outside Iran (net meeting), about this issue. I am going to share parts of what I have told them, with you.

Pan Movements (Panism Political Ideologies)

Pan movements are about unification of a group of people with elements of a united race, culture, language, religion, history or all the mentioned elements, to expand their power influence, land mass, cultural effects and to improve their economical power.

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Pan Iranism vs. Islam (Pan Arabism)!
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Iran History Index
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Re: Pan Iranism and Islam (Pan Arabism)!

Postby LOJ » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:45 am

Hello OLD dear one:) I'm getting kind of nervous to associate with any Muslim since ISIS was invented, or do I mean POPULARIZED! But I know you are not and you defend our rights cuz your one of us.....RIGHT???
Hows life going, not sure where to post this but there is this guy that keeps sending me emails who is supposedly a newly established member Nick Ginex. Now how do you weed thru these people who want into your EXCLUSIVE club?
That could be a fake picture of him and he might just be a part of ISIS trying to infiltrate your club. There is absolutely NOTHING that can't be done now online. Be careful, be verrrrry careful. Matter of fact I wouldn't let anyone in unless you meet them in person or at least by skype.

After all we met on one of those sleazy webcam sites and you loved what you saw so you begged me to come be your associate and MOI here I am and have been. Luv you soooooo much!b :B
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Postby Nicholas Ginex » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:29 pm

Dear JOL,

You are concerned about who is this Nicholas Ginex. As the author of six books that deals with development of the three major religions, how mankind first conceived one universal God, an analysis of Islam's history and its abominable verses in the Qur'an, the deception of President Obama who is in reality a Shiite Muslim, and a philosopher who has ideas about the beginnings of the universe, you can put your mind at ease by going to my blog site http://www.nicholasginex.com and my official website, http://www.futureofgodamen.com that has book reviews and overviews of the six books.

As a member of IPC, I would have thought that you have read some of my articles; my last one titled, "A WAY to END Islamic Terrorism" is posted on http://www.nicholasginex.com and recently on IPC.

Please visit my blog site and be courageous enough to comment on any of the articles dealing with the threat of Islam. There needs to be more participation by IPC members in dialog that proves Islam is a religion of hate, bigotry, violence and murder in the name of Allah. That is why I decided to send e-mails to IPC members. If you want to be taken off my list let me know.

The article will also be issued as a Press Release so that countries around the world will be informed of a solution to END Islamic terrorism. How many IPC members are courageous enough to comment and let their voices be heard? I hope after you read articles and books I have written you will be convinced that I am supporting IPC and Dr. X efforts to inform the world about the Islamic threat.
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Postby Nicholas Ginex » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:18 pm

Hello to the great Muslim leader Kargozaran.

IPC is honored to have you display your courage to tell the world that Islam is “the future and decision makers.”
You have a poor understanding of Islamic history that proves Islam grew to be a Theocratic Empire by 750 CE after the death of Muhammad in 632 CE. This empire was grown by capturing the lands of many countries and forcing Islam as a belief through FORCE and intimidation where millions of people were given three choices: convert to Islam, continue with their religious beliefs by paying a tax, or die.

After Islam rose to power, due to their low education and ability to establish representation of their people with the power to vote for their leaders, limiting the Muslim mind to receive a liberal education so that they can think about alternatives, and greed and power over people as their objective, this Empire finally was defeated by many of the people of the conquered lands. Note that after Muslim armies defeated Christians and built mosques on their lands after 750 CE, the Christian Crusaders fought and retained their lands through the Holy Wars of 1095-1291 CE, a little over three centuries later.

My dear Muslim, history will repeat itself whereby Islam will be overthrown by their own people once they learn that they have been made into fools by the insidious indoctrination of the Qur’an. You need to read Allah, We, Our and Us. An overview is presented on http://www.futureofgodamen.com and a FREE read exists on IPC,
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/authors/nic ... /index.htm.

Now you are again threatening the free world by writing, “We are nuclear and will always be nuclear and America cannot do anything about it. Deal with it bitches.” You write like a child who has hate and find it hard to express yourself without throwing stones.

I tell you what you can do to prove you are an intelligent man. Go to my website http:www.nicholasginex.com and comment on any of the articles written about Islam. If you are smart and really believe in your religion and the truth of the Qur’an, you will definitely go to the website to show where I may be in error. But are you courageous and smart enough to debate without throwing stones but use logic and truth?

I guarantee you, Islam will NOT live long by peaceful means. It has always been a nation that exists with the indoctrination of Muslim minds and the use of FORCE. That is, contrary to the LIE by President Obama, a Shiite Muslim, ISLAM WAS NEVER A RELIGION OF PEACE.

So my dear Muslim, let’s see if you are intelligent enough and courageous to debate me on http://www.nicholasginex.com. We can have a friendly conversation and I will show respect for your views. The only thing you need to do is deal with the facts, verses that are in the Qur’an. After all, Muslim religious leaders claim it was provided by Allah and is the religion of truth.
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Postby LOJ » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:09 am

I already replied to you via email. Please get my name right next time it's LOJ not JOL. I don't know you from Adam so I have no desire to debate Islam or Muslims. They have obviously made their beds so be what may. The only thing this terrorism decade has proved is I was WRONG BEFORE> have a good day.
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Postby Nicholas Ginex » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:24 pm

Dear Brother X,

I was fascinated by your article, A Vision of Iran of Tomorrow. Originally written March 26, 2007, I noted that you provided a 1st Edition on August 8, 2008 and the 2nd Edition on June 27, 2016. Thank you for bringing me and your IPC members up to date with your vision for a free Iran with the nationalistic culture, laws, and morality that was once the pride of Persia.

Your article gave me an appreciation of what Persia once was. The history of the loss of Persian rule after the Muslims defeated the whole of Persia and went on to destroy the culture and way of life of other people in other lands is well documented but few people really read history. Your analyses of how the downfall occurred is instructive; but more importantly, are your thoughts for a new Persia, a Pan-Iranism, that you envision for tomorrow. For me, the mere name Iran connotes a distaste because it is totally infected with an Islamic theology that breeds hatred, bigotry, violence and death. I personally don’t like your vision being associated with the corrupted name Iran. However, I understand that humans need to take baby steps to effect change and perhaps, after the 3rd Persian Nation (I don’t like Empire and will refer to Nation in this article review) is established, its citizens will identify themselves with a name they can be proud of.

Your article was long and the details of what happened must be put aside because there is no way of resolving spilled milk. I rather get to the chase and reflect on your vision for a nationalistic Persian Nation made up of all the territories captured from the Persian land and partitioned by other powers. Like you, I will deal with the 3rd Persian Nation that “will and must become a reality.”

For our readers, I repeat your objective for a 3rd Persian Nation.

“Third Pars (3rd Persian Empire) will and must become a reality. Pan Iranists all around the globe believe that it is crucial for the survival of the Iranian people to create a “Persian Union” and to once more, unite all Iranian territories including: Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, A Small Part of Russia (Ossetia), Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Parts of Iraq including Kurdistan and more, Bahrain, Part of Pakistan (Baluchistan), Iran. etc. We must deal with the Second AIOG (Arabo-Islamic Occupational Government) with unshakable determination and extreme prejudice. Destruction of AIOG is crucial to rebirth of Iran. For once and for all and for the last time in history, Islamic Abomination must be dealt with. No doubt, Persian Empire will rise again.”

Dr. X, you then proceeded to perceive a Global Government which will govern the world. This is envisioned by first establishing large social-economical unions, such as the European Union, North American Union, Russian Federation, and indeed the Persian Union. This vision is very far-reaching into the future because at this stage with world conflicts, it will be an impossibility to expect countries to coalesce into discreet unions.

Right now, the biggest threat to countries around the world is the indoctrinated mentality forced on human minds with the inculcation of beliefs in the Qur’an, which are implemented under Sharia law. As long as the Islamic religion exists with the present beliefs set in the Qur’an, there will never be a peaceful coalition of countries into unions. Rather, there will be a coalition of countries to defeat Islam. Presently, in Europe we see countries are starting to break away from the Union Concept. It is because such unions force a particular nationalistic view unacceptable to freedom loving people who desire to function as human beings able to express themselves in all and any topic. Especially, when they ‘see” their culture, laws, and way of life is being threatened by a Global Think Tank that has as its mission one objective to preserve an objective that defines a different culture.

Hence, we have a dilemma. Is the objective of a 3rd Persian Nation established by the use of force or will it be driven by a set of values, politically and morally, that people will be attracted to? Yes, there is a good chance that many people will join your vision because the present alternative of living under Islamic rule manipulated by indoctrination to become slaves and dopes will not be tolerated as they acquire education and learn to think for themselves.

Dr. X, you made a logical statement but one that is unachievable with words alone. You stated, “We must be on the equal level (economy, military, politics and power) with these other unions so they will not oppress us, colonialize us and dictate to us on their own terms!” This is nice. But first baby steps must occur and that is the transformation of Muslim minds to think with the promise of being able to think for themselves and not programmed to be robots by incessant indoctrination of Islamic beliefs.

Since the major portion of the Islamic world is under the yoke of brain-washing religious leaders that infect Muslims with the theology written in the Qur’an, the first baby step for all Muslims is to recognize that they are the victims of a theology that transforms them into fools and slaves to be ordered about like cattle. So much so, they have been brain-washed to kill not only non-believers of Islam but their own people by committing suicide or outright murder. Educated Muslims will eventually acknowledge that they have been made into fools and dopes. Dr. X, your mission is to teach Muslims why and how they become fools and that your vision is a viable alternative.

Dr. X, all your micro and macro agendas to create a Global Persian Government can be achieved but first by destroying the Islamic theology that destroys the minds of Muslims.

That is why I advocate God’s greatest command, Love One Another. This command must be taught by all religions and will require that Islamic religious leaders revise the Qur’an to reflect this command. In failing to do so, there will be a coalition of the many free nations of the world who will realize that the only solution is to close down all mosques in their cities and towns and if confronted with force, to fight them until they are exterminated like roaches in their homes. To this end, I wrote an article that provides recommendations for Islamic religious leaders to revise the Qur’an. It was posted on IPC titled, A WAY to END Islamic Terrorism.

The article also appears on the website, http://www.nicholasginex.com. I encourage IPC members to post their thoughts here on IPC or the nicholasginex.com website. Together, we may be able to show if the recommendations are valid or if there are other approaches to pursue.

Brother X, I love you and will assist you in any way possible to achieve your mission; albeit, your vision for a Persian Nation where Persians, and others, would like to follow the goals of freedom and independence to be all they can be under rule by perceptive, intelligent, and compassionate leaders.
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Postby Kargozaran » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:37 pm

The Olama philosophers are all here, don’t make me laugh, I’m already fallen on the floor laughing. You guys are too much. I read this forum for fun and humor. You are good pastime.

Do you really want to get serious, fine let us get serious? This bickering will get nowhere, see the reality. You see the evil in Islam and terrorism in Islam. That’s not IRI, that’s Wahabi Saudis, ISIS and Al Qaeda. Why don’t you see Shiite Islam, mysticism in Islam and spiritualism. Islam is part of Iran, you can’t separate it.

Ahreeman X
Revises his old nonsense into a new nonsense, second edition Pan crap for Neo Nazis and worshipers of dead Persian culture. He hopes by doing this choir, he can blow some life and wind in the indifferent and corrupt Iranian American population, but they don’t care. They like more to drink vodka, smoke opium and dance the night away in Persian Café and cabarets.

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Great Miss Nazi Iran and errand girl of Ahreeman hurry ups and takes Ahreeman’s message like a little dog to every corner of the Internet and for sure here to make sure everyone heard the great delusional Ahreeman. Hey Catayoun, get a life and go kiss Arabs ass in Morocco, maybe they throw you a bone or a doggie toy.

Lori Forouzandeh
This old junkie whore comes out of her retirement, makes a few noise to say she is still alive. She backs it up flirting with That psycho Ahreeman and writing some incoherent remarks pretending she is a heavy weight thinker. Hey Lori, go back on crack because book sales and debates failed.

Nicholas Ginex
The latest addition of people with too much time and no lives is this guy. You have no clue about history of Iran, yes Iran. For your information, read the writings of your piss buddy Ahreeman and see Iran means <Land of Aryans> created not by Muslims but by Nazi Reza Shah who changed the name of the country from Pars or Persia to Iran. You ignorant American fool who believe Iran has anything to do with Islam. Word Iran is nationalist term not Islamic term.

What is wrong with religion and government mix? Why you fools are so against it? Nicholas Ginex, you are nothing but a fraud making big talks and self promoting your books and yourself here. You found a free tribune and you make best of it.

You don’t know me, I’m a technocrat, businessman and entrepreneur. I educated and lived in America, Britain and Canada. I make business and deal with the west. I chose to live in Iran and serve our country under leadership of Sardar Sazandegi Rafsanjani.

You talk about making a Persian Union but we are doing it now. Iran is dominating the Middle East. We sell more products than ever all over Middle East. Our exports are sky high. Our military consultants, Sepah IRGC and financial Institutes are everywhere. The only soft block on our way is your puppet Saudis and their satellites. Saudis are like cotton candy for us. Sooner or later, they will go upside down.

Look at the real life but not your Pan this and that fantasy. We created Shiite Islam and we used it as a tool to dominate the Middle East. Safavid did it, why not us? Pan Iranism and Nationalism will not sell. Our brand of Islam did sell and now Iraq is back to mother Iran. We own Iraq, we have proxies in Lebanon, Palestine, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Yemen, Bosnia and much more. We compromised, exported our brand of revolution, Islam and capture the Middle East with Iranian culture.

You are stupid to think IRI is falling. IRI has never been more alive, rich, powerful; and on the rise. Islam and Iran are interlinked and can never be separated. We understood this reality and we learned to work with it. You didn’t and that is why you scream and moan like wounded dogs in exile. Many technocrats, Iranian and non Iranian are serving Iran in Iran and abroad. There are Americans who work and live in Iran. They know that IRI is the future power and on the rise. America is a falling super power, ISIS is bound to fall, Saudis are puppet regime. We are future of Middle East. China and Russia are on our side because like us, they are on the rise. Business is great and we make great business with China and Russia.

You think we are stupid and a bunch of brain dead religious fanatics. Don’t believe everything you see on CNN and FOX. This country is not run by religious fanatics which you hear and see on news or in the rallies.

We are technocrats who run this country. Master businessmen like Commander of Construction Ayatollah Rafsanjani run the economy, Sepah IRGC runs the military industry, oil industry and many productions, business goods and industrial productions are run by people like me. Agriculture, industries, technology is booming. So what is wrong with religion and government working together? Secularism doesn’t work in Iran.

America knows it is for her best interest to partner with Iran against ISIS and to keep Saudis in the bay. America doesn’t have the power, finances and means to go against IRI. You guys are fools. Why don’t you like many others beg for forgiveness and work for Iran?

Ahreeman is computer scientist, journalist and propagandist. He can use his talent serving his own country by serving Iran and Iranians.

Catayoun is Security Systems Expert. We can use people like her in Iran. Why does she serve Arabs in Africa?

Lori is a whore, she can serve the Qods Force in front at Syria, Iraq and Palestine. She is old but she has much experience. Lori is like Persian Carpet, older she gets, she can pleasure better. Lori can serve as a head Madam with her whores making temporary marriage serving the troops.

Nicholas, you are an aerospace engineer. Serve IRI like many Americans do. We pay more money, better facility, Persian food is great and vacations are lovely in Caspian Sea shores, ski in Zagros mountains and Alborz mountains, resorts in Persian Gulf and Kish Island, nature in Qeshm Island, Esfahan, Shiraz, Tabriz and so much more. Serve the winner and future of Middle East. Iran is a rising power not only in Middle East but global.

The challenge is not to reply to your bull crap in your blog but the challenge is for all of you to see your faults, flaws and wrongs. To see your wrong ways, make right, beg forgiveness, get spiritual with manaviyat, join the winner and serve Iran.

Iran is Moulana spiritualism, mysticism and philosophy. Rich music, culture and art. Shiite Islam is golden age of Safavid. Shiite Islam is deep and mystic.

You can see, all of you are wrong, fools who make only noise but we are building the future. Lot of money to be made and we are making it. What’s wrong with making lot of money, making business and serving Iran.

Western corporations are already in line to reserve their offices and branches here. Sanctions will be gone, business will be great and Iran will be a super power. Islam is not a problem, it is a tool and a mean to be used for greatness of Iran. Islam is a religion. Don’t make it evil. It is all about making money, making business, building Iran and turning Iran to a superpower. You talk about it but we are doing it now. Join us and stop bitching on the side and cry wolf. Get over it because IRI is here to stay and become more powerful.

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