On Afghan Culture, Society, Religion and Politics
December 9, 2007
Those Eyes: Afghan girl, oppressed but
Book 4: Sulima
& Hala: Behind
the Burqa, Our Lives in Afghanistan
Story is told
by B S Yasgur who met the sisters in USA in June 2001.
This is a
very important book & is a must-read for all who like to understand
the culture in
Sulima was borne in Afghan in 1954 & left in 1979.
Babajan lives with Bibijan (only 1 wife) with many children,
grandchildren, cousins & other family members in their immense
mansion which was
like a compound.
she lived in the house of her father's father Aghajan..
Eyes: Afghan girl, misty and mysterious!
was all about power & control.
The atmosphere in his
household was tense, a
simmering pot of conflict. The 4 wives squabbled incessantly.
When the men were
out, the wives allowed themselves the luxury of screaming, cursing,
& raging, but when
the men were present, they fought with silent hisses, glares,
muttered laments, & pursed
This is HAVU factor in action.
U can bet that the kids learnt to fight & hate their half-siblings.
If my mother hates u'r mother, then I hate u too.
real friction was between my grandfather & my father (Abajan).
Father worked as a photographer, taking family pictures.
He also spent time on his father's crops of wheat & rice.
His father didn't pay him salary,
coz he was living in the house rent-free.
desperation, Abajan started his own sesame seed oil company.
are forbidden from using my seeds for this company," Aghajan
said, his voice as
sharp as his farming implements. "If you really feel the
need for extra money - & I cannot
imagine why you would, since I am allowing you to live for free
on my property & eat at
my table - then you must do as I did. Purchase land of your own.
It's not seemly that my
son should be selling oil like some peasant."
remained silent. One did not argue with a parent. The word of
a parent was
considered equivalent to the word of the Qur'an. Just as you could
not talk back to God,
you could not talk back to an elder. But Abajan reached a decision.
He would move out
of his father's house & seek his fortune in the big city of
Any way, father moves out to Kabul & they end up having many
'guests' most of times.
A girl is expected to do housework, so Sulima is "taught
to wash cups & spent much of
my day at the sink."
served countless cups of tea to countless men who came to discuss
politics, religion, &
current affairs with my father. Abajan was a brilliant, thoughtful
& provocative man.
And, like his father, he was a character. Fierce, stubborn, opinionated,
articulate, he captivated his guests with his political insight.
was attracted to communism when I was young. He held forth for
many hours to
his friends about the teachings of Marx & Lenin
argued & debated with his
friends, & often I would hear an "Aha!" of triumph
as it became clear that he had made
his point & a friend had no appropriate rejoinder to offer.
This takes me back to the old days in Miran. It seems to me the
culture is so domineering
that people use any debate as excuse to dominate others. It doesn't
matter what they
debate, all that matters is WHO is WINNING the debate. They just
jump from here to
there, using any argument they find to beat the opposition, be
it a friend or family
member or, God forbid a stranger (this is where it can get nasty).
not only they could easily change sides from one day to another,
become kaaseh garm tar az aash. Meaning no matter which side they
take, they are
always fierce & stubborn & more fanatic than the people
who originated the idea.
As we see
later, Abajan turns into a fanatic Muslim over night.
are going to change our practices so that we will all stay healthier,"
announced after dinner one evening when I was about 7 - it was
shortly after we had
moved to our house in Kabul. "You see, when we eat directly
on the floor, we can get
germs into our food."
"What are germs?" Karim (brother 4 years older) asked.
Abajan flashed him a dark look, as he often did when he thought
Karim was asking a
stupid question - which was most of the time.
I love this bit : "flashed him a dark look". This is
a major feature of the culture. Not only
people are quick to anger, but they react & show anger with
their entire body, specially
the face & the eyes!
Abajan was remarkably enlightened in some ways - & remarkably
benighted in others.
His autocratic tendencies brooked no defiance, no flexibility,
& no consideration for the
emotional needs of his family.
Abajan often asked question from the kids to test them. When Karim
Sulima often could. Abajan would often brag to others about how
smart Sulima was.
made no attempt to hide his preference for me, & Karim hated
me for that. As the
older son, he was supposed to be the favored & anointed one.
I answered correctly, Karim would suffer &, of course, I would
suffer later. If I feigned
ignorance, Abajan would be angry & I would suffer any way.
scowled at Karim, then beamed at me. "Bring the flyswatter,"
he ordered. When I
hung back, he repeated the command. "If you do not bring
it right now, I will hit you
with it as well."
I brought the instrument of torture from the kitchen.
"Now you hit Karim with it. A big boy like that, my firstborn.
He should know the
answer. He shouldn't need his little sister to help him out."
If this is not a classic example of the Goh culture, what is?
It's all there: men r superior to women; age creates superiority
(older kids r superior to
younger kids); you have to beat 'sense' into kids & punish
them to teach them lessons;
parents creating friction amongst the kids by being stupid, you
have to show who the
BOSS is even to your own kids, etc etc.
knew I would pay dearly later. A sudden sharp blow to my ears.
A kick on my shins
when no one was looking. Or I would wake up one morning to find
my mattress soaked.
Karim, gloating & self-righteous, would point it out to my
mother & say, "Sulima wet her
If by any chance u find this funny, think again. Karim will end
up doing terrible things to
his own sister when he becomes the head of the family.
folded me into her arms. "Remember, Sulima, the best revenge
is to be good to
your enemy. Embarrass the person with your goodness.
That was Madarjan's philosophy. She always encouraged us to be
understanding, & loving, even to those who hurt us. Was Madarjan
teaching me to
become a doormat? Couldn't her philosophy have been caused by
a culture that I was
already resenting, that forced women to be submissive & allowed
men to be abusive?
I've known such kind women in Miran too. I don't think they were
the norm. They were
exceptions, specially among the uneducated gaav/olaaq or amongst
the fanatic Muslims.
Most of the ones I knew were from loving families who had kind
& caring parents & they
were not fanatics in their religion.
In fact Madarjan appears to have had a kinder family than Abajan.
Madarjan didn't have
any stepmothers, but Abajan did. Sulima found her maternal grandparents
kinder than her
have proved in the last 25 years that kindness is not a feature
culture. Same can be said about Miran.
In fact Islam
is NOT about kindness or forgiveness. Islam spread by the sword
& rape & loot, not by kindness.
Abajan changed. I was only 10 years old, but that day marked the
end of my
In 1964.Abajan went to Mecca on a work assignment, not the real
departure had been business as usual. No special rituals. No fanfare.
He returned with a new found religious commitment & zeal.
He rejected his former
associations & declared his renewed commitment to Islam. "At
one time in my life I
believed in communism," he later said about that time in
his life. "In Mecca, I came to
understand that it is badbooy, a stinking system. It is godless.
It is wrong. So I had to
chose the other way, the right way. The way of Islam.
See what I mean by kaaseh-garm-tar-az-aash. He used to fight with
communism, but now he hates all communists & would have them
all killed as Godless.
Even his old friends. There is no middle ground in the culture,
either extremely cold, or
extremely hot, always hating 'others' running on anger & revenge,
superior to 'others'.
Any way, he
ordered all women in the house to cover their hairs.
One day, Sulima
was serving Abajan water so he could wash his hands. But her scarf
slipped off her head. He gets angry & tried to strangle/choke
her with her scarf to teach
her a lesson. "don't ever let me catch you with your head
that day on, a reign of terror fell upon the household. Cousins
& uncles who were
involved in Communist activities were no longer welcome in our
home. We children
were no longer allowed to offer an opinion that differed from
my father's. We were
no longer allowed to ask questions. If we made a stupid mistake,
we were berated or beaten.
We were expected to learn our lessons well & there was no
room for disagreement or
learned my lessons well, but not the lessons of obedience, modesty,
dedication that my father hoped to teach me. I learned vigilance.
I was always on guard
for the next attack, the next inquisitorial question, the unexpected
surge of his fury. ..
I learned the fine arts of stealth & concealment as I buried
my true feelings under the
scarf of filial duty.
This is what I mean when I say Islam doesn't work & forces
people to lie & live double
lives, to live with 2 faces: one for public, one for themselves.
father wasn't the only tyrannical enforcer of so called Islamic
law & custom in our
house. My grandfather was just as fanatical & just as frightening.
Even though his G-father was stingy, he tried to give his son's
family gifts, but Abajan
would not accept, which was a direct affront to Aghajan's role
as patriarch of the family
was 9 years old when a new constitution was passed, calling for
a democratic process in
the choosing of leaders. For the first time, Afghanistan would
be governed by the
.It was a revelation to me to discover that there
were women running for office.
Wow, they had it all. But how could it go so wrong for so long?
have proved beyond any doubt that gaav/olaaq can not have 'democracy'.
means being like SWISS, then it could take them more than 4 generations
of proper mass education to get there, if they r lucky & work
together to completely
change their culture & don't sell off their country to enemies.
If it means
just having a voting system, then any gaav/olaaq could be bought
to vote any
other gaav/olaaq in power, then the gaav/olaaq will end up fighting
each other for power
& the system will not work in the long run. And when u add
Islam to this, then u'd end
up having rape & loot & kill & destruction, especially
if the culture is all about
domination & power.
She joined the WDO, Women's Democratic Org, the first women's
which was created with Soviet help. Her job was to recruit new
women into WDO.
But the only official entity that in any way recognized &
supported it was the communist
Party. So she ends up getting involved with the communism.
of the new women shyly raised her hand. "But the Qur'an allows
men to have many
wives. Why, even the prophet Mohammed had several wives."
My heart inflamed, I took a daring leap. "Then the Qur'an
is wrong. I would burn the
book that allows men to marry many women, that perpetrates such
a terrible injustice
upon us!" I had heard Mariam say this, & it struck me
as powerful & true.
Wow, she was 'hot'!
She had such high goals, but the culture forced her on the dirt
& crushed her as we'll see
This is Y
it will take more than 4 generation to change a Goh culture, but
even then it
won't be easy. It will need a powerful government to force it
happen & force the
gaav/olaaq into submission..
Well, in her
case we don't have to go too far. Her bully father found out &
forbade her to
even get out of the house. U can read the book to find out the
She was lucky,
coz Karim, her bully brother was not living in the house then.
calls get monitored & her father constantly monitored her
to catch her red
handed. "u've lied before. I'm certain u r lying again."
hiding her writing under the matters but Abajan found it &
beat her very
he lashed her with metal cable! Once she was immobilized in bed
& it took her
2 weeks to recover.
Read the book
to find out the details of him even crying & begging her to
Let's not forget that he himself used to be hot head communist,
not that long ago.
She is then
forced to move out of Kabul to her grandfather's house.
her father tells her to go back & forces her to sign s something
under Abajan's roof was an elaborate, carefully thought-out, extended
deceit. I had
no choice, but I also felt no peace."
Zahir closed the Kabul Uni coz of the ane-qollaabi students were
She asks to
go to college, but father didn't agree. She asked Dr Amir. Her
mentor, to help her & talk to her father. This made her father
very angry "how dare u
wash our family's dirty linen in public & humiliate me!"
In 1972, Abajan
had a car accident. He told her "Don't cry, my baby. I know
who did this
& I will live. Just get me to a hospital.".
continuously, even though she had forgotten how to do it. "Please
let him die." But he died, which forced her into rage. She
even cursed God for having
taken her father.
that Karim, the bully brother who hated her & was only 4 years
the new BOSS. She was 18, he was 22.
partying & DRINKing! Partied were in their house & family
was forced to
cook & clean. Kraim refused to work & the family savings
They are forced
to move back to Aghajan's house.
She is excited coz she thinks she can now go to UNI to study medicine,
what else to
become Doktor! But Karim enters the room & puts a GUN on the
table! Then tells her
"what makes u think I'm going to let u go to medical school?"
I flung my book bag onto the floor. "What?"
"I'm the head of the household now. If I don't want you to
go to medical school, you
The brute. The bully. He deserved to be slapped. He deserved to
be screamed at - but I
wasn't going to try any of that. Not with a gun on the table next
to us. It was not
uncommon for a brother to kill a sister if he believed she was
promiscuous, or disobedient. It was considered an honor killing
- a deed he had not only
the right but the duty to perform in order to remove shame from
the family name. Karim
hated me & I wholeheartedly believed he was capable of using
1- She'd slap if she could. She has learnt to hit/beat
people to teach them a lesson too.
The culture changes everybody to fit it's mold.
2- He was her 'real' brother in a family with only 1 wife/mother.
If such a family could
be this savage, then imagine how bad the situation would be with
more 'normal' families,
those with 4 wives (HAVU factor).
rage churned & seethed in my belly. "But why?" My
voice rose in anguish, then
broke. "Why would you do this to me?"
The cruel amusement playing around his eyes reminded me of Abajan.
"Because I can,"
Medical school was his flyswatter, & I, like a trapped bee,
was buzzing frantically &
flapping my wings as he swung at me.
that all?" She asked.
"Not really. You can study biology if you want to.
Oh one other thing"
I knew there had to be a catch. "What's that?"
"you have to marry Jamal."
"That ahmaq! Absolutely not!"
"He's not an idiot, & if you don't marry him, then you
can't go to school."
He told her that Jamal was his best friend & that he wouldn't
let her marry Rashid &
bring shame on the family.
She had been
attracted to Rashid & they used to write letter to each other
couldn't just date & spend time with each other. Rashid was
a communist like her, but
they ended up backing 2 different leaders & stopped their
He told her
that she couldn't go to school unless she was engaged. School
next week. He gave her 1 month to find someone to marry. If she
couldn't then he'd force
her marry Jamal.
was sitting in the other room, overhearing everything. I'm sure
heart ached for me. But what could she do? Karim had a gun. He
also had the legal right
to run the family as he wished. He was the head of the household
now, & even his mother
was required to be subservient to him.
There was a guy in Uni, Yakub, who had shown interest in her by
telling mutual friends
about it. She wrote a letter to him saying that she was interested
in him too.
She told Karim that she wanted to marry Yakub. He told her she
couldn't coz he didn't
She went to
her uncle for help & gets 'engaged' with Yakub, but hardly
A year later,
the polite & shy Yakub changed & started having expectations:
bed with me". She refused & told him "not until
we are married". Yakub told her "You
know, there are other ways to do it", but she wasn't sure
what he meant & told him "No".
months of pressure, he disappeared. Then he showed up limping.
her that he'd gone to visit his family in the mountains &
fell of his horse.
informed by a friend that Yakub had kidnapped Ali, the 10 y-o
cousin of this
friend, & locked him up in an empty house for 10 days to rape
him. Yakub then let Ali
go, but Ali told his father. Ali's brothers then gave Yakub a
severe beating, hence the
Wow! Not bad
hah? Fanatic Muslims 'saints' kidnapping 10 yo boys to rape &
them go as if nothing happened? It must be 'normal' in the culture,
or else the boy
wouldn't have been released. Maybe Yakub had been raped too in
his childhood too.
Sulima is returning home, but the 8 y-o neighbour's boy calls
Come quickly! My sister is in the car, she is asking for you."
Sulima tries to look into the
car, but she is grabbed & finds herself inside, on the floor
of a moving car. The driver
was Yakub. He was chuckling & told her that he'd paid the
boy, who came up with the
plan, "smart boy!".
Not only you
can pay 8 y-o boys to lie & come up with plans to kidnap women
neighbourhood, but such boys are regarded as "smart",
her to a friend house & told her he was going "to have
my way with you".
She end up
bowing down & kissing his feet & telling him that he was
the king & he was
right & that she'll marry him & then he could do anything
he wanted with her.
He then kissed
her & told her that he was glad that she came to her senses
& told her not
to tell anybody anything about this. She is then returned to her
house at 0100.
a letter to Karim, the bully brother, telling him everything &
begged him to
realize how dangerous Yakub was & not to force her to marry
told her that "poor Yakub" was forced to do what he
did & had every right to
show her who the boss was. He forbade her to leave the house till
she came to her senses
& locked her in her room. He then threatened his mother &
sisters that he'd shoot them if
they helped Sulima.
After a while
she tells Karim that she'll marry Yakub & started going furniture
with Yakub to prove that she was telling the truth.
on asking "when are we getting married?" & threatened
to take her to the
"they were wild people, primitive, almost savages. In their
world, the law of
the wilderness reigned. I could be killed." Well, a 'savage
culture' can only create savage
people. I'm surprised that she doesn't see her own brother as
to go to the court to cancel her engagement, but there are delays
& she thinks
that perhaps the officials had been bribed by Karim to ignore
her. So she sought help
from a friend of his father. He told her that the records showed
that she was married to
Yakub & that the forged document must've have been brought
in by Karim & her uncle.
He told her the only way out was for her to marry another man
& bring in the new
marriage document to cancel the forged one.
She then think
of Ibrahim, a distant relative, who had sent her letters for years
to marry him. "He was handsome & well spoken" but
that's what she said about Yakub
too. His father was the nephew of Aghajan's youngest wife.
about Sulima not being sure about marriage & went to see Madarjan,
told him that she was engaged. Ibrahim said "Even if she
was married & the mother of 6
children, I would kiss her feet & make her a crown upon my
This is a
very interesting comment. In a culture where men only want young
why should a young man say this? A Goh culture only creates problems
Young people are forced to lie & live double lives & never
learn to deal with life & their
urges in a positive & realistic way. They develop unrealistic
expectations & often end up
doing the wrong things & making stupid mistakes that could
never happen in a more
open & educated society. Savage people running around all
day in pain not knowing what
they are doing & creating more problems for themselves, never
learning to THINK & act
wrote to Ibrahim & agreed to marry him. She has been the "object
desire" for 8 years!
Y should a
young man have a girl as an object-of-desire for 8 years, without
her or knowing much about her?! Could such a marriage last for
Sulima went to court with Ibrahim & they got married secretly.
should be carrying you on my shoulders through the city, with
throwing roses at your sacred feet."
Sulima: "We can't tell our families yet.
She said good-bye
to him & got into a cab & went to her Aunt's house. "I
I had never experience before. It started as a warmth in my cheeks,
then a tingling in my
belly. I thought of Ibrahim again, handsome & courtly beside
me, & my heartbeat
quickened. By the time I had gotten out of the cab, I knew what
it was. I had fallen in
love with my husband. I didn't know what to do with these feelings."
be surprised if the marriage doesn't work out? Not only they hardly
know each other, but they have hardly dated anybody or have learnt
to be around the
opposite sex. They don't even know much about each other's family.
Then all of a
sudden they are 'married' & wonder about the feelings they've
never known before.
hormones take over & they totally abandon LOGIC & get
lovey-dovey in a
very silly way.
it was, it was new. It was scary. It was wonderful. It made me
want to fly &
sing. I could not wait to see Ibrahim again."
they have to get rid of Yakub who wanted to do it in 'other ways'!
She told Yakub
that she was married to Ibrahim & they went to court to cancel
'marriage' to Yakub.
shouted "You are a fahesha, a godless bitch & a whore."
Said to her "I'm sorry he spoke to you that way. You have
every right to your happiness
Let me call a taxi for you."
& she is forced into it to find Yakub's brother driving it!
It seems that
deceit & lying is part of the culture. Yakub is quite happy
to lie to her to
seduce her, when he's planned to kidnap her with his brother's
But this time
she "grabbed at his crotch & pulled hard" &
managed to get out of the car
& then got another taxi & went to her aunt's house. Yakub
& his brother go there too &
get inside, waving their fists. "You are paste-baysharaf!
.You bring shame to Islamic
society. Your mothers are pigs. If you don't make Ibrahim divorce
her so she can marry
my brother, I'll come in the night & kill you & your entire
family!" Yakub's brother
This is very
interesting coz Yakub went to 'university'. If 'educated' Afghans
like this & could kill entire families in the 70's so easily,
then things must be far worst
now, after so many years of savage killings living with total
lack of logic.
brother & uncle (married to Madarjan's sister!) were not happy
situation & thought that she 'belonged' to someone else &
should've taken care of her
problems before marrying .
Ibrahim had no job & lived with his uncle. He then arranged
to move in with his mother
& married sister, Seema, on a short notice so that he could
have Sulima live with him.
exhausted. In the past 48 hours I had married, annulled an engagement,
abducted, watched my aunt be threatened with her life & moved
into a new home with a
The Goh culture
gives no peace or freedom to people & forces them to run around
headless chickens, lying & making mistakes & getting into
all sorts of problems.
Ibrahim's mother went over to Sulima. "Her mouth was smiling,
but her eyes
held a different expression. Something unreadable. Her eyes did
not match her words &
when she hugged me, her embrace felt weak, like water running
down my sides.
'mubarak daughter-in-law. Congratulations. Ah, how happy his father
will be when he
returns & sees his youngest son a bridegroom' "
father had left when he was 4 & rumor had it that he was living
in Russia with
a new family.
Sulima was about to go upstairs when Ibrahims' mother, Deljan,
arm & gazing intently into her eyes said:
care of my baby, he wanted you for so many years. But although
you're beautiful, & you come from a good family, you already
belonged to someone else.
You bring scandal with you.
It is up to you to make up
for the trouble he's going
through on your behalf.
Serve him faithfully & uncomplainingly.
Grant his every
wish. Never let the smile vanish from his lips.
pressure on the family, so they are forced to move out to live
brother, Zamin called her & asked if he could go & visit
her, but Zamin
had always disliked Ibrahim. They used to fight in the family
gatherings & as they got
older, Zamin continued to harbor anger toward Ibrahim.
the culture is all about anger & revenge & KINEH.
him why & Zamin replied in a hurt way "Do I need a reason?
sister." She gave him OK, but told Ibrahim not to be there
when Zamin gets there.
for a tour of the house "to be sure that Ibrahim was taking
good care of his
sister". So she should him around, including her bedroom
in the tour.
night a homemade bomb was thrown at their bedroom's window, but
screen & bounced back into the yard & set fire to the
bully brother, had arranged for Zamin to be the spy, to scout
out the house &
report its layout to him. The bomb was thrown by Kraim & his
friend & Yakub & his
brothers, to restore 'family honor'. Then they drank wine &
smoked & congratulated
My own brothers had done this to me."
Afghans lived in hell for 25 years!!!
decided that the "Yakub's family honor" had to be restored.
He talked to them
via a mediator & decision was made to pay them 50K Afghanis,
2 guns & 5 sheep.
As can be
seen here, guns were part of the culture, even before the Masters
Afghans, so those who blame only the Masters for all the fighting
& killings ignore that
the killing & guns were & are major features of the Afghan
put Ibrahim's family in a terrible position. They were being humiliated
of a man who had stolen another man's woman, & now it was
coasting them money as
well. I hid my face in my hands & started to cry."
was another matter. He was Ibrahim's older brother & had always
been nasty to
Ibrahim. Uncle yusuf told me that throughout their lives, Yasin
had always bullied
Ibrahim. Once Ibrahim got marks on a test & wanted to show
it to his mother, but Yasin
tore it up. Ibrahim told his mother, but Yasin ran away when Deljan
tried to beat him.
That night Yasin beat up Ibrahim so bad that Ibrahim could hardly
walk the next day.
had always taunted Ibrahim. "You can't do anything. You're
a bachay nana, a
mommy's boy. A sissy." When this happened, Ibrahim would
turn to Deljan for comfort.
"You're a wonderful boy, Mommy's little darling. You don't
have to prove anything to
was still nasty to Ibrahim. "Look at the tanbal. Hanging
around the house like a
lazy bum, freeloading off my work & uncle Yusuf's". He
extended the unpleasantness to
include me as well. "Well, if it isn't the loser's wife.
How much are you going to cost the
his comment about Ibrahim's work troubled me deeply. "Why
aren't you working
shrugged. "I just haven't managed to find a good job yet."
had not finished college, but I thought that this was because
he had already been
working. "Why not?" I persisted.
took both my cheeks in his hands & drew my face to his. "I
don't like it when your
mouth pouts," he whispered, planting a kiss on my lips. "Things
just didn't come together
for me, that's all."
When one older brother is a bully, it could be an exception, but
when most older brothers
turn out to be a bullies, then bullying must be part of the culture!
Just like beating seems to be part of the culture.
someone without even knowing if he worked or not!
She then did
partibaazi & got Ibrahim a job.
to see Uncle Usuf & Deljan, when Sulima was out fo the house
& told them
"You should all know the type of woman you have allowed into
your family. She is a
whore.A lowdown, sniveling, lying worm. Do you know that she had
a boyfriend before
she even became engaged to Yakub?"
When Uncle Usuf tried to object, Karim cut him off. "You
should force Ibrahim to
Divorce her for the sake of your family."
Not bad hah?!
A culture where an older 'brother' throws fire bombs in the bedroom
of his own sister &
then tells his in-laws that his sister is whore & tells them
to divorce her!
Marxist revolution took place in 1978. I was overjoyed. I felt
it was the best thing
That could have happened to Afghanistan.
programs were instituted
The rural population was resentful.
Yes indeed, the gaav/olaaq didn't want education.
Also, the Masters were paying the top gaav/olaaq to fight the
any woman became the minister of women's education, it should
be Sulima," Uncle
Usuf declared. "She has been educating women since she was
a child. They could not
choose a more appropriate person."
A 24 yo young woman who didn't know what her husband did for living
for a minister?
Does this mean that the country didn't have anybody more 'mature'
& more educated at
that time, or is it the case of families trying to get a foot
in the door of 'power' to make
themselves more important?
shocked to find that she is pregnant. She's been using 'counting'
minimize the chance, but "there had been that one night
"You must be pregnant."
"When is the last time you had your adat mahwar?"
Sulima: "I don't know. 2 months? No, 3. No, 4 months."
"But Ibrahim," Sulima wailed, "I'm not ready for
a child. .. I don't want this baby.
Nothing is going to make me give up my work"
The next day
she went on the swing, but her aunt stopped her & told her
she should take
care of herself in her condition coz she had a new life inside
See what I
mean about the culture forces people to run around all day, being
adrenaline junkies, never learning to THINK. A 24 yo educated
woman who is good
enough to be a 'minister', but can't manage pregnancy & gets
told off by her aunt for
being on a swing, while her brother goes around telling people
her sister is a whore!
that Meena the heroin of RAWA, also got pregnant when "she
was not ready
& didn't want to stop her work". She had somebody else
raise her daughter.
When the child
was a few months old, Sulima came back home from a trip to the
to educate women, & found Ibrahim on the sofa. She asked him
how was work, but he
said he hadn't gone to work coz "I missed you. I was sad.
I decided to take off the day."
He then tried to talk her into going into bedroom, but she was
angry that he hadn't gone
A few days
later she questioned him about his not going to work & he
got angry "You
can't tell me what to do!
. No, what you really want is a
divorce." They argue & end up
going to court to get divorced! The clerk asked them if they were
sure about the divorce,
but they backed down.
"I - well, not really. I don't want to divorce."
"Neither do I."
happy bubble burst when Hafizullah Amin, my old adversary rose
had been on particular bad terms since my second year of college,
when I had challenged
him during a meeting that was at his home.
She had told HA how she told people that Quran said that men &
women must be
educated. But HA got angry that "what kind of communist quotes
from Quran? Go &
read the communist manifest to them." But she told him that
they wouldn't understand it.
HA got angry & banged his fist on the table "who are
you to tell me what to do?"
Sul: "a fellow member of the communist party."
HA: "You're no communist! Your father was a Muslim &
you're following in his
I want you to leave my home. You're not welcome
is quick to anger & trigger-happy & kineh'i.
Now that HA
was assistant to the president she knew she was in trouble. She
watch what she said about him. "Gone were the days of free
speech. Spies were
everywhere. You could not air your views openly.
to speak my mind, so this was
particularly difficult for me.
all the spies were true Afghan people, who got paid to do it.
HA asked to
see Sulima in his office.
HA: u don't like me very much, do u?
Sul: shake of the head to say no.
HA: & y not, if I may ask?
Sul got enraged because of "who, me?" act of HA &
lost control: "because you're
dreaming what this movement is & what it could be. You're
betraying the ideal we've
fought for, some of us have died for."
HA's face flushed & they start shouting at each other. HA
shouted how he's done so
much of this & that. She shouted back that there is no freedom
& equality. The guard
heard the shouts & went in the room, but HA told him "leave
her alone, she's crazy, but
she won't hurt me."
HA: u don't
understand anything. u r still a child. U r naïve & stupid.
U know nothing
about the real world.
Sul told him
that she rejected his 'real world & that she fought for freedom
HA: what do
u know about correctness? U'r father was a religious man. He worshiped
the false god of Islam.
u'r foundation is false & u've
not shed u'r childhood.
HA then asked
the guard to escort Sulima out.
indeed very naïve for not knowing that a savage culture can't
& equality. She didn't know that the very same gaav/olaaq
whom she tried to educate had
no trouble selling her to her enemies & could kill her without
She was also
trigger-happy & could not control her anger. She was not 'diplomatic'
enough to be in politics. Being honest & hard working &
make good politicians. But she can't be blamed for the faults
of the culture.
A few days
later the president was assassinated & HA became the president.
She was then pushed aside & later was put in prison because
of the things she had said
about the president. She asked to see HA's nephew, whom she knew.
Then she is freed
by this partibaazi but is warned to keep her mouth shut.
But she got
arrested again & the HA's nephew told her that he couldn't
always help her
& advised her to leave the country. "Jail is a dangerous
place Sulima. Terrible things
happen to women here. You can love the country from afar
He told her that he'd help
her with the passport.
Uncle Ususf & Yasin (Ibrahim's bully brother) had sold their
house & had
moved to Austria. Yasin had married an Austrian woman, who had
been traveling in
So they left
Afghan in 1979, a few months before HA's assassination, &
go to stay with Yasin, who was nasty to Sulima & Ibrahim &
Helga, his own
wife! Then they move out to a rented room. Landlord found Sulima
a cleaning job for a
Uni professor, who found her a part job in Uni as Lab technician.
She then did partibaazi
& found a job in a loading dept of a company.
a go at Ibrahim that "we know who the real man in your family
(Sulima) does everything.
You are nothing but a zancha.
Still the bachay nana.
wife is not smart. I am the man.
". This made Helga
cry & Sulima upset, but Ibrahim
did nothing. He was into drinking beer.
The next day
Ibrahim slapped Sulima & then said he was sorry, didn't know
over him. "I miss home. I miss my mother." He also told
her that he left his job "I didn't
like the job. It's not for my honor to drag boxes around."
Mind you he had no skills &
didn't speak German & got the job coz somebody did Sulima
He told her
that she made too much money & that he called her but she
had gone out.
"Bet you had lunch with your wonderful Herr Director. Bet
you slept with him after
lunch." He said that he the right to quit coz she ate in
fancy restaurants while he moved
boxes around. She tried to be understanding.
later, Yasin told them that they had to move out coz he had a
fight with Hans
the landlord, who had helped them a lot. She questioned why they
had to move, but Yasin
got upset & told Ibrahim "do you let your wife talk back
to you like that? Explain to her
what family honor means
". After Yasin left, Ibrahim
told her not to speak like that to
Yasin. "He is my older brother. I owe him respect. I'm youngest.
He doesn't owe me
respect. It is better to be the family dog rather than be youngest."
As u can see
hierarchy is everything in a domineering culture. It's all about
superior to others & 'honor' & 'face' & 'what would
him he could leave but she would stay coz she had paid for the
sneered "now I understand. You are sleeping with Hans (landlord).
That is why you want
to stay." She denied it, but he wouldn't let go. She then
said that if that was true then that
would make him a pimp. He lost it & gave her a bad beating,
God. Oh my poor darling. What have I done to you?
did you make me
do to you? Don't know what got into me
She said "I'm
sorry I said that terrible word to you. I won't ever say something
again." He buried his face in her hair "that's my girl."
They moved out the next week.
From here everything starts to fall apart, or you could say after
they moved out of
Afghanistan. She works hard & tries, but he is a slack bum
& starts drinking &
pretending to me a 'real man'.
she gets a praise from others or rises up, he beats her. She had
to explain to
people how she got a black-eye "I bumped into the dresser."
She got accepted
to study for PhD & goes to classes, but is forced to quit
coz she thinks it
would lead to divorce & Ibrahim taking her daughter away.
wanted to fight the communism & kill & rape & torture
Ibrahim's family moved to USA. Her friend are being killed &
raped in Afghanistan.
When she cries about her dead friends, Ibrahim calls her 'crybaby'
& says "Why should I
Then the Uni
Dept she works in is moved to France, but the move is delayed
months so that Sulima can move there too. They care so much for
her. They even found
an apt for them in Paris & education for Ibrahim. They pack
to leave. It all seems perfect.
But the day
before the move, Ibrahin told her that they were not going, coz
he was going
to USA to be with Deljan, his mother! "You have arranged
everything. I will be living off
my wife. This is unacceptable." He told her that she was
going to France, he was going to
America, taking his daughter & that he'd send her the divorce
He left with
the daughter. She thought she had lost her husband & daughter
nothing to live for, so she took pills, but somebody from work
rang before she passed out.
She woke up
in the hospital to find Ibrahim there (he had gone to Yasin not
not let go of his hand. "I'll do anything you want
forget how she had such high goals, yet notice how low she has
not look in the Director's eye when she told him she wasn't going
The Uni did so much for her & delayed everything for 6 months,
so that she could go.
She had agreed to go & Ibrahim must've agreed to go too, coz
they had already packed to
She took the
daughter & left for USA, while Ibrahim stayed back to finish
Ibrahim said good-bye in the airport "I can start my own
business there. I can be a man
again. We will b happy, like we were in the beginning."
I find this
very hard to take or accept!
The idiot lazy savage has never worked before, yet he now thinks
he can open his own
business to be a real man?! She has always found jobs for him,
but he quit all of them.
She gets such a lucky chance to study & work in her 'field',
in spite of not knowing the
language or having much job experience, yet the idiot starts drinking
& beating her up
& turning the opportunity of the life time into a disaster.
Stupidity is a major feature of a culture that has NO LOGOC what
the house in USA, but daughter cried when Deljan took her into
Deljan turned a wrathful face at Sulima "so you've turned
my granddaughter against me,
just like you did to my son."
Sul: "What do you mean?"
Deljan: "Do you know that until he married you, he used to
sleep in my bedroom, just
like he did when he was a little boy? Poor baby, he got so lonely
at night. I would stroke
his head & say , come to Mommy. Then when he marred you, he
started to sleep in your
bedroom. You took him away from me."
Ibrahim's sister, told her not to let it get to her, coz Deljan
had been acting
strange since they left Afghan, even towards her own daughter.
This is very
interesting, coz they didn't have much LOGIC in their lives even
but now it seems that because they left, now they are acting 'strange'
as if to justify their
actions & behavior?! How about the gaav/olaaq back home killing
& raping? Are we
gona say they became 'strange' coz many Afghans left?!
next day Sulima told Deljan that she was gona look for a place
which Deljan didn't like coz "in our country we all live
together". They argue & Deljan
told her "then get out
didn't you hear me? I said,
get out right now!"
helped her move into a cheap motel & took care of the expense.
would go & visit Sulima at night & take food for her &
the any letters from Ibrahim.
Letters were "almost always sent overnight express. A lot
of money, I knew, but on the
other hand, it showed how much he loved me."
What a mess!
They can't even feed themselves, but waste money on express mail!
The idiot has no job, no education & can't even control his
anger, but we can't blame
him, he is a product of the savage culture.
If one or two people r stupid, then it's an exception; but when
the majority r stupid & r
totally irrational, then there is something wrong with the culture.
say "I am heartsick & lonely without you.
. I am
sorry for everything I
I'll write more tomorrow."
Yes, u guessed
it, another expensive letter will be sent tomorrow. Then Sulima
"kiss the letters & put them into my suitcase. I had
been right to leave Austria. My
husband loved me."
a place & "started cleaning with a vengeance" with
ammonia cleaner. But she
passed out. Landlady found her & told her she got chemical
This is hard
to understand from someone who had studied biology. But the culture
teaches people to do khar-kaari without thinking. Somehow people
are taken over with
sure & adrenalin & forget to think & work smart.
She went house
to house looking for house cleaning work & found some. Then
some car seats from a trash area. 2 weeks later her lazy bum husband
arrived, but didn't
want to go to 'his' house, which Suliam had worked so hard to
find & clean. "No, I want
to see Deljan first" he told her. Ibrahim & Deljan cried
"my baby, my beautiful little boy,
nothing, no one should ever come between us. No one will ever
love you as I do. You are
home with Mommy."
her he was tired & wanted to go home to rest, but Deljan said
home, darling." Ibrahim told her he wanted to go to his own
place. Deljan grabbed
Sulima's arms & gave her the ice-look "you'll never win.
I will give him so much love
that he'll have to come to me."
This is all
part of the power-game in a culture with HAVU factor, where people
fight their own step brothers/sisters/mothers with lies &
deceit & backstabbing for the
favors of the 'ruler' of the family.
The next day,
she went to work & returned to find Deljan at her house telling
her that she
left without giving Ibrahim proper breakfast & that "a
good wife make her husband
him work at a construction site.
did it start to go sour? The first day Ibrahim didn't feel like
going into work?
When I became pregnant again & was too sick to cook or clean?
When he started
drinking again? When he graduated from beer to whisky? When he
quit his job for good?
When I complained about having to clean up after him & his
rowdy friends, a few fellow
Afghans & a few men from work, who had begun hanging out all
day, drinking & eating
& leaving their cigarette ashes on the floor, dishes with
congealed food in the sink, &
candy wrappers everywhere? Or was it when our landlady kicked
us out ("you're a doll,
honey, but I can't have those lowlifes hangin' around my property')?
No matter. The
change was gradual at first then accelerated like a mad car without
Could anybody be surprised?!
She could've gone for a PhD, but chose to follow a savage irrational
She used to ride on a high horse & lecture people, but now
she can't even make rational
started hitting her again, when she was pregnant. Once he choked
her so bad,
she thought it was the end. It gets worst & worst & once
she calls 911, but hangs up. But
police traced her phone & showed up at her address. "What
happened to you?" they asked
& she said "N-nothing". Police started asking questions
& Ibrahim had answer for everything.
Police said they didn't believe & asked if she wanted to press
charges. But Ibrahim took the
upper hand & said he was leaving & getting a divorce.
He spat a curse at her & left. But she
cried "don't leave. I still love you."
had visited her in USA & told Madarjan about Sulima being
Madarjan wrote a letter to her & signed "Your suffering
I can't stand
this "suffering" term!
It seems that everybody suffers, caused by the stupidity &
lack of logic of the culture, but nobody
tries to fix things to improve their lives. To make things even
worst, some even seem to take pride
in their suffering & try to compete with each other in telling
how they suffered more. This is even
worst with women, who seem to have nothing to do after 45, but
to suffer & lament about it on
& on & on for the rest of their lives.
Ibrahim's Uncle Usuf, who told her that divorce was not proper
for a Muslim wife.
But he also told her things that she should know. But before u
read further make sure u r sitting
down! Coz if u r a 'normal' person, u'll be shocked.
father was a crazy person. A dewana. He did terrible things. He
used to marry 14
year-old girls, virgins, then cut out their private area after
the first night so no one else would
ever want them. Of course, he no longer wanted them either. So
would take another girl.
Ibrahim's mother is the daughter of one of those girls. My brother
left her, although he did
not go through a formal divorce."
All this in a fanatic 'Islamic' culture, where girls r supposed
to be covered?!
Can any sensible person read this & claim that Islam means
Islam, after 1400 years, has only has managed to create savage
gaav/olaaq & suicide bombers.
It was created by the sword & killing & looting &
rape in the first place.
This Ususf seems to be 'educated', but how could his own brother
marry the daughter of
such a mad man, in a 'closed' culture where people talk &
gossip? Then he just 'leaves'
her wife & children, when it is not 'proper' for Muslim women
to be divorced?!
unlike the past, Ibrahim didn't apologize. Deljan gave her triumphant
gaze "it's only
a matter of time"! Sulima went down to her knees & apologized
to him "I'll try harder. I'll be
a better wife. I promise."
must be exaggeration, nobody could be this stupid, a Biologist?!
But that night
they made up & slept together.
Ibrahim told her that things would be better if they had more
surprise, he started hitting her again. She asked him if they
could try counselling.
He told her "counselling is for crazy people. I am not a
dewana. I never want to hear about it
a few months later. Deljan rang her with smug pleasure "so
now you're on your
own." She told her Ibrahim had gone back to Austria.
that he didn't speak the language, didn't like Austria, his bully
stand him. It was his idea to go to USA, which really messed up
Sulima's work & PhD
studies. But now the Goh goes back to Austria.
She was doing
house cleaning, but got into gardening. She worked hard &
as many as 5 jobs in a day.
Khar-kaari without THINKing to make sure to make the right choice
decisions. Smart-Work is not part of the culture. I'm guilty of
this myself, too many times
I care to remember.
Now make sure
u r sitting down, coz shock is coming up! But perhaps the culture
Such shocks on people that they get desensitised & nothing
shocks them anymore?!
2 months later,
she gets a letter from Ibrahim "I want you here with me.
A wife's place is
with her husband. Come back to Austria. Listen to my orders &
do as I say or I will file for
Not bad hah?
back to him that: u had always blamed me for everything, so go
get the divorce. u've lost everything, u'r wife, u'r country,
u'r pride. I will not beg u to come back
& will not abandon everything I have worked for so hard ...
her & the hormones took over again. "his precious voice,
the voice that had
crooned to me in the night, ...yes yes yes please come home. Please.
... this time, I will
make it perfect"
But they couldn't
get a visa for Ibrahim & Usuf told her to go to Austria.
She had paid
down payment for a house & had moved into it, but now she
put the house
on the market. But this was 1989 when Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan.
So she wrote
to Ibrahim & he said yes they should go back. So she sold
the car & everything else & left
for Austria on her way to Afghanistan, "and we were going
we were going home" to live in 'hell'! Yet another big mistake?!
to be another feature of the culture: they always seem to find
somewhere else! Kids may ask parents for this or that, but parents
them that they would have it all in their summer holiday when
they go north/south.
Or like here, when they always jump from here to there hoping
to find it there, but
When they get there, things get worst. They don't identify the
real cause of the problems
& always move there where "things would be perfect again",
like in the good old days!
Any way, she
gets to Austria & asks herself "why had I come back?
What was I getting
culture seems to be all about ACT-first (without thinking) &
not to return to Afghan coz their families warned them against
it "it was too
dangerous. Mujahaddin were tearing through the country, raping
known this from personal experience & should've never decided
back in the first place. But they should've done many things differently,
if they could
'think' & act rationally.
18 months in Austria, which was the "best 18 months since
we had left
Afghanistan." Ibrahim was working then.
In 1991 Ibrahim's
visa for US is ready & they move back to USA. "Now everything
beyond perfect. Ibrahim was sober, & we were happy together."
I was reading the book I thought "yeh, sure, I wonder how
long it would take
this time for the HELL to return".
Do u see a
pattern here: all suffering & pain & stupidity, then "the
best few months of my
"; then back to all suffering & pain &
stupidity, then "the best few months of my
"; on & on & on moving from one disaster
money from friends & started a landscaping business. She also
this time, the downward spiral came so fast that I was completely
Deljan had been furious that Ibrahim & & had stayed with
Nancy instead of with her.
She was putting daily pressure on Ibrahim to leave me. Ibrahim
hated the new house "it
was bought with woman's money." Every time the bank called
to talk to Sulima, he
would get upset & said "I'm the man of the house &
that they should talk to me!"
She told him he didn't speak English & didn't know what mortgage
was, but Ibrahim hit
her. He also started drinking & partying & going to Deljan
again & hitting her for not
doing enough cleaning or not ironing, etc etc. This is when she
was pregnant & throwing
went to the mall with friends, but lied to her claiming she was
working with her
teacher. She got worried & ended up spanking her & screaming
at her. "My God, I thought,
I'm turning into Abajan. I still have not forgiven myself for
forces people to run around & make all sorts of mistakes &
never have any peace or
pleasure, mostly living with pain & frustration & anger.
This often results in outburst of anger &
a mutual friend, who knew about their problems to talk to Ibrahim.
Ibrahim got drunk & angry "why did you bring our private
business to Sabre? How dare you speak
ill of me to someone I care about?" He knocked out her front
tooth & stabbed her in her neck with
scissors. Police put him in Jail, but Deljan bailed him out. She
got restraining order against him.
later they talk & he said he agreed to use a 'mediator'. Ali
the mediator told them that he must get a job & not complain
that his wife earns all the money, & when Ibrahim asked her
to do something try to listen without arguing. She agreed to salvage
"my marriage to the man I loved."
that Ibrahim had taken $20000 from her bank account. She still
owed most of the money to her friends who lent it to her. She
got angry at him & he attacked her with a axe, but she ran
away & called the police. She then moved out to a woman shelter.
She once went home to get cloths but found phone bill for $1400
from Ibrahim calling his bully brother in Austria. He didn't have
any jobs or income, she had to pay the bills! Ibrahim showed up
& called her names "your mother is fahesha! Your family
is the scum of the earth!" She got angry & talked back
to him that his mother was fahesha & he was the scum of the
. He clenched his fist & she ran away.
The next months
Ibrahim, a real Afghan man produced by Afghan culture, filed divorce
ground of abandonment.
& Ali encouraged her to try to make up & she called him.
Read the book for details.
was devastated when she heard about the divorce. I am told that
she took to her bed for 2 weeks. Once again, it had been presented
to her by some of Ibrahim's cousins as my fault."
She took a
lawyer to fight his motion of divorce. The court agreed. He was
ordered to pay child
support. A year later she filed divorce on grounds of a year of
separation & it was granted.
paid any child support & went back to Austria & married
a German woman.
She says that
"the Afghan people must become self-sufficient & self-sustaining.
I believe that the
key to permanent change in Afghanistan is to provide education
to both women & men."
I agree with
the education part. But it will take over 5 generations to do
it, if it is 'allowed'.
It's not this/that
person or group, it's the culture which is the source of the problems.
Yet many like her r forced not to go back to fix the problems.
Many give lectures & ride on their high horses, but they just
leave when they feel in 'danger'.
I'm glad she
left, coz she'd be dead otherwise.
I'm glad that she finally saw the light & that she told her
also has the story of Sulima's sister, who also went to US.
sure that if I talked to Karim or Yakub or Ibrahim or Deljan,
all paint a completely different picture where they were the real
victims & Sulima was
the guilty culprit bitch. They would all swear by all that's holy
too. Deceit is a major feature of
Islamic culture, where it is extremely difficult to find the 'truth'.
I'm sure Deljan
would tell me heart breaking stories of how she 'suffered' all
her life & sacrificed so
much for her children, who no longer visit her & how she was
'saint' & helped everybody, but
people were always cruel to her.
many women in Miran who treated their daughter-in-laws or sister-in-laws
like shit but
played the role of a suffering-saint after they grew old.
* * *
book is by S Shah : Storyteller's
It has many good examples of how Afghan culture is totally F*ed.
I don't have
access to it, so I'm relying on my not very good memory.
She was borne
& bred outside of Afghan & had Afghan parents & decides
to go to Afghan
to learn about it.
guy (A1) lives in Pakistan, working for the Army.
He spends a lot of his own money of the Afghan refugees, so much
so that his wife is against it.
Another Afghan guy (A2) is a fighting mujaahed, riding around
on his white-horse.
One day, A2 brings his very sick wife on his white horse to the
refugee camp. A1 takes the wife to
the hospital risking his own position. A2 cries & says he
can't thank A1 enough ...
Guess how the story ends?
A2 sets fire to A1's house in Pakistan because A1 ran out of money
& could not meet
A2's expectations. So A2 gave himself the right to burn A1's house
down! I wonder if A2 thought
Islam means 'peace' too! This story really got to me. It shows
hoe the mordaab would destroy
everything that comes into contact with it. Even if u try to clean
it to help, it will destroy u.
This book sheds light on many aspects of the shit culture of Afghan,
which is very much like
bacheh baazi (rape of male children),
extreme authoritarian culture,
khaarej-raised Afghans (like the author) do not fit-in back in
the Afghan culture(!),
was told stories in her childhood about how brave/no-bell the
old Afghan rulers
were. One story was :
after the ruler had a ton of 'Pilau', he asked his guest "what
should we eat for dinner"!
This is all
they ever did: eat & shit & F*.
No wonder the whole area went down the drain.
so stupid & divided that the Brits took over the whole region
without much trouble.
She also got
a group of mujaahed help her move to Afghanistan. It was a hard
trip, but the leader
forces herself once to sleep in her room, coz he had to show others
that he-was-in-charge. They
didn't have sex, but somehow I think he told others that he did.
Mind u, she was an Afghan!
There was a young boy in the group & the leader's attitude
towards the boy unsettled her (bacheh
She was traveling
on the back of a van, dressed as a 'man' & the Afghan driver
kept telling jokes &
Looking at 'him'/her in the mirror. The first night she was tired
& felt hands touching her. It was the
Driver. But he quickly left when he found he was touching a woman!
The next day the driver was
very quiet & never looked at her! Homosexuality is part of
the culture, but like many Arabs, they
don't see it as 'normal' & not as homosexuality!
tried to do match making for her & math her with a guy, but
she couldn't stand him & his manners. She was borne &
raised in the West & had 'western' values.
up paring with a Swiss guy (reporter?)& moved into a house.
She soon learnt that she
needed help managing the house, so she hired an Afghan guy, who
ended up running her whole life. Like they bought a goose, but
HE got angry & asked how much? Then HE took the goose back
to the marker & fought with the guy who sold it & took
the money & went & bought better AFGHAN goose instead!
Somebody in her position must have a big Afghan goose & his
honor dictated that he should buy at & that his boss should
not pay too much for it.
He then told
her that somebody in her position must have guards, so he hired
some relatives to work as guards. The whole culture is about face
& image, u have to be seen above-others, so others won't try
to dominate u! U have to dominate to prevent others from dominating
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happened in Afghanistan, where different groups took over periodically.
See if u can find something wrong with this picture:
true devout Muslims, fought the enemy & took over & people
huge crowd danced in streets for 7 days & 7 nights, men had
to shave their beards,
but then they started raping & looting & killing.
, true devout Muslims, fought the enemy & took over &
them, huge crowd danced in streets for 7 days & 7 nights,
men had to grow beards,
but then they started raping & looting & killing.
, true devout Muslims, fought the enemy & took over &
them, huge crowd danced in streets for 7 days & 7 nights,
men had to shave their beards,
but then they started raping & looting & killing.
sides, now fighting for group-A, now fighting for group-B, now
to group-A, now fighting for group-C!
split into even more groups, fighting even their original group.
of group-X tortured many women & children, but then he was
captured by group-Z & was asked "how could u torture
women?", he replied "well,
I didn't agree with the idea of torturing women"
Can u see
But in all
these years of nightmare, the victim pee-pole always end up blaming
1 person for the atrocities. Oh, it was Dostum, it was Golbeddin,
it was X, it
was Y. Or blamed the group: Mujahedin did it, Taliban did it.
blame super powers. But if X or Y hadn't done the killings, thousands
of others, all true believer devout Muslims, would have done far
worst. So it's not the X
or Y, but the damn CULTURE which has created such killer asshole
idiots who could
destroy their own country & kill/rape their own people.
the idiot gaav/olaaq do anything to end/fix the nightmare?
They are very quick to blame X or Y to remove any responsibility
Oh no, "what could we do?"
remove any blame from Islam, by blaming groups or individuals.
Islam is very holy & teaches people to be kind & holy.
If people turn out to be asshole
killers, it's because they don't follow Islam properly. Wow, how
could so many groups
of killers, rule in the name of Islam, butcher thousands, but
people like them coz they are
Muslims, but then not follow Islam properly?! Even worst, how
could fanatic people
who would beat/kill others for not following Islam 'properly'
& give 'Fatwaa', just
sit back & let their killer asshole rulers do despicable things,
often used fanatic Islam for their own benefits. If they r really
serious about a
'civil society' & 'democracy', then they should let pro-LOGIC
people who speak against Islam
have their say & help spread their message to the mass gaav/olaaq.
And, last but not least, the
corrupt 'Islamic' regimes should not be helped to come to power
or remain in power just because
it suits the Masters.
I use the
term 'MORDAAB of MIRAN' to refer to Iran coz no matter how I look
not only there is NO LOGIC in the culture, but it seems that it
is bent on SELF
DESTRUCTION (hence MIRAN) & to make things even worst, it
everything that comes into contact with it (like a mordaab).
lack of logic/sense can be seen in the turtle-scorpion joke about
mid-east in one of
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