Persia versus Greece and Rome
Based on the latest Archeological, Historical and Scientific discoveries
October 5, 2007
L. Persian Imperial Achaemenian Lotus
C. Derafsh kaviyani Jewels Banner of Sassanids (224 AD - 651 AD)
R. Persian Imperial Achaemenian Standard Bearer
Civilization Chapter 1
Civilization Chapter 2
that History is a Science; therefore, my approach to the history
is through the latest archeological and scientific facts. Unlike
the average historian who looks at the history as dogma and unchangeable
written words similar to Bible and Torah, I deal with scientific
changes. I do not deal with fantasy and myths created by Greek
Story-Tellers and Hollywood film-makers, but I deal
with science, archeology and historical facts. Before I write
a book, an article or in general a historical document, I always
study the latest scientific facts and the most up-to-dated archeological
discoveries. I look at history as a living and changing Science. I am a "Scientific Historian" versus the over
95% of the historians of the past and the present whom are "Dogmatic
I would like
to analyze deep in to a few issues. The public opinion in the
west (by majority) due to historical ignorance and mass media
propaganda (Hollywood, Television, etc.) is that the foundation
for the western civilization came from Greece and Rome while Persians
were barbarians who damaged and destroyed the western civilization!
They assume that the cradle of civilization were Greece and Rome.
The western public is also brainwashed in the belief that Greece
and Rome were highly civilized while Persians were savage dogs!
Again the western public believes that Greece and Rome were democracies
while Persia was a rootless and ruthless dictatorship. Now I would
like to analyze these accusations and clarify through research,
that if these were based on historical lies made up in Greece
and Hollywood or if they are the truth! So again, let us itemize
these common western beliefs,
and Rome were foundations for the western civilization while Persians
were backward barbarians against the west.
and Rome were superior civilizations while Persians were inferior
III. Greece and Rome were advanced democracies while Persia was a ruthless
Myth and fiction
or truth and historical reality?
western public believes in what they see in the Hollywood movies
and Television Channels! The average public also has the attention
span of an ant and they can't remember the events of a month ago,
set aside the events of a few years or decades ago! The average
youth (student) in the west (specifically America) is too occupied
with Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll to even distinguish between
Comic Books and Hollywood fictions and then the historical realities!
They are too shallow to even read anything aside Graphic Novels,
set aside historical research!
History of Anti-Persian Animosity in
concept of "Anti-Persian" (Anti-Iranian) has
nothing to do with the events of the past 29 years (Islamic Republic
of Iran) and terrorism, yet the West (specifically America and
Britain) have been "Anti-Persian" going back to the
Shah's time (before 1979) and even before that, all the way back
to the second world war (WWII) and beyond (Safavids). The cause
is the massive propaganda throughout the history via Greek Bias
Historians, Roman Bias Historians, Hollywood, Television and now
Graphic Novels and Comic books!
Persian Empire Map
Achaemenid Dynasty (559 BC - 330 BC)
This is not
Anti-Islam or Anti-Terrorism or Anti-East but this is pure Anti-Persian
agenda which had caused the massive propaganda throughout the
history to also make the western public to become Anti-Persian! This is a well-calculated attempt by the western historians,
western media, western politicians and western governments to
brainwash the western public and the western youth and to mold
their brains into Anti-Persian Hatred mode.
Achaemenid Portable Siege Tower
of the west and their imperialist intentions towards the Persian
territories is nothing new. It all started with the Portuguese
and the British imperialistic intentions towards the Persian Empire
during the Safavid Dynasty (1501 -1736) and Afsharid Dynasty (1736 - 1749); however, the Safavid and Afsharid Persian
Empires of the 16th through 18th century were too powerful of
a regional and Asian empires for the western powers to mess with!
Even at the
beginning of the Qajar period (1794 - 1925), while the
last Persian Emperor, Aqa Mohamad Khan of the Qajar Dynasty
was ruling the Persian Empire (1794 - 1797), the western powers
dared to set foot in the Persian territories! By 19th century,
the decline of the Persian superiority had started and the Persian
Empire became the Kingdom of Pars. Little by little, Russians,
Ottomans and British started to each create a sphere of influence
in Iran (Persia or Pars); however, the foreign powers could never
actually colonialize Iran, even though they had colonialize the
whole Middle East, Near East, Central and south Asia!
Achaemenid Siege Tower at the parade for the 2500 Years Celebrations
of The Persian Empire which was held on 1971 at Persepolis, Pasargad,
Tent City and Shiraz in Iran.
could not colonialize Iran but they managed to annex many states
of Iran. Throughout the 19th century, Russians managed to defeat
the declining Persia in many battles and had annexed many Persian
territories such as Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, part
of Kazakhstan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Ossetia of Russia.
Russians added all these territories to their empire until the
fall of the Soviet Union which all of them became independent
In the meanwhile,
the British had their share of our territories, and they helped
themselves with creating protectorates and fabricated nations
out of our states such as Afghanistan, Baluchistan half of Pakistan
every nation in the region which their names ends with the "istan"
syllable, was once a state of Iran (Persia)! Either Russians or
British stole it from us and created a fabricated nation of "something-istan"
out of them!
dared to colonialize Iran until the WWII when they actually occupied
our nation (Pahlavi Era) and they forced Reza Shah the Great in
to exile. Americans, British and Russians jointly occupied Iran
and forced a regime change in Iran! Iran became the "Bridge
of Victory" for the Allies to defeat the Axis powers! Allies
used the Iranian Railroads and road systems to send raw material,
goods, foods and weapons from the Persian Gulf to Russia. This
had caused the defeat of the Nazi Germany.
in history, Iraq was also originally a state of Iran (Mesopotamia)
and the British had invented another fabricated nation named Iraq!
Even in Iran-Iraq war Americans supported and backed Iraq against
Persian Immortals - Blue Units
Persian Immortals - Elite (Gold) and
Persian Immortals - Elite (Gold) Immortals
Persian Immortals - Chita hunting as
Persian Immortals - Lion hunting as war
Darius III and Persian Immortals (before
a campaign against Alexander)
L - R: Immortal Standard Bearer (with Achaemenid Golden Eagle
Banner), Immortal Commander, Shahanshah Darius III of Achaemenid
So as you
see, the western animosity and imperialistic intentions towards
Iran does not start with the Islamic Republic of Iran (1979 -
present) but it goes all the way back to the Safavid Persian
Empire (1501 -1736). Noting new folks.
Persian War Chariot
I am going
to post a compare and comparison document of Greece and Rome versus
Persia. Now I will state the results of my historical research
and with the latest up-to-date and scientific evidence, I shall
at last, give you a straight answer about this whole ordeal.
How the Jews were treated by Greece and
Rome vs. Persia?
Coliseum in Rome was built by pillaging the Jews of Israel out
of their riches and their forced slave labor! Jews were the subjects
of discrimination, abuse and torture, starting not from the Nazi
Germany years (1933 - 1945), but way back in the history. Almost
every single civilization and empire (except the Persian Empire)
had predatory behavior towards the Jews! The Jews were abused,
discriminated against, mentally and physically tortured, their
properties were confiscated, were pushed in to forced slave labor,
and they were actively exiled and murdered during these periods
and their allies
Soviet Russia and their allies
The First World War European Empires
Industrial Age Europe
Spanish Empire Inquisitions
Papal Catholic Rome during the Dark Ages Europe
Greek City States
And many more civilizations and historical periods.
Basically the only grand empire, which protected the Jews and gave them
sanctuaries, was the Persian Empire!
the Great invaded and captured the Babylonian Empire, he freed
over 42,000 Jews from the slavery of Babylon! These Jews were
dragged against their will from Israel to Babylon (Mesopotamia)
and were forced in to slavery. Cyrus freed them and relocated
them back to their homeland, Israel.
Atlas of the
Maps Index - Maps of the Persian Empire
Great, Darius The Great and Xerxes The Great were named in Bible
(Old Testament AKA Torah) and remembered as saviors of the Jews. Cyrus is the patron saint of the Jews.
Who says Persians
are Aryan Racists? Who says Persians are Anti Semitic? Who said
Persians are Nazis? This garbage is fabricated in Hollywood, Western
Media and Western Anti Persian Propaganda Machines!
Yes, we are
mostly Aryans while the cheesy American Ku Klux Klan and Nazis
are not even Aryans, but they are Anglo Saxons, yet they call
themselves Aryans and they call us Rag Heads!
Yes, we do
have some Nazis inside and outside Iran and we do have Anti-Semitism
inside and outside Iran, amongst the Persians.
But this does
not mean that a race (Persians) and a nation (Iran) are Anti Semitic!
Throughout the history the Persian Empire was the protector of
assume that the Persian Empire existed only during the Achaemenid
Dynasty (559 BC - 330 BC)! The fact is that the Persian Empire
existed during (559 BC - 1797 AD)! There were times that the Empire
was invaded and taken over by savage barbarians (Greeks, Arabs,
Mongols, etc.), yet the Empire and the Persian civilization did
not abolish! The first Persian Emperor was Cyrus The Great (559
BC - 530 BC) of Achaemenid Dynasty and the last Persian Emperor
was Aqa Mohamad Shah (1794 - 1797) of Qajar Dynasty.
Dynasties and Monarchs of 8000 Years
and Last Persian Emperors
L - R: Courthouse Servant, Xerxes and
Spearbearer (with Achaemenid Golden Eagle Banner). The Golden
Eagle was first designed by Cyrus The Great as the first official
banner and state flag of Iran.
Islam had entered Iran (651 AD), large scale Anti Semitism did
not exist in Persia. There were times of hardships for the Jews, for instance during
certain period of Xerxes' reign; however, with the help of characters
such as Emperor Xerxes and Empress Esther, Jews were saved and
their rights were protected. Jews were always welcomed in Persia
and their rights were protected same as the other Persian Citizens.
had entered Iran, with it, the Anti-Semitism and Discrimination
had also entered Iran! Those 222 years of occupation of Iran
under the Arabo-Muslim had effected the psyche of the Persians.
Years of Struggle for Independence of Iran (651 AD - 873 AD)
But Iran has
8000 years of history, the oldest civilization in the world! 222
years of Arabo-Islamic brainwash could not wipe out the ancient
Persian Culture and teachings of the Persian Philosophers.
Years of Iranian History!
and Zoroastrianism, The Real Story!
Iran was liberated by Yaqub Leis Saffarid and the Persian
masses. Arabo-Muslim were kicked out of Iran; however, their infectious
disease (Islam) had somewhat remained in the brains of the Persians!
the Iranian (Post-Islamic) history, there were times that Anti-Semitism
had existed in Iran. Every time Islam was a strong element in
the government and somewhat controlled the Persian Empire (Safavid
era), there were heavy Anti Semitic waves in Iran; however, mostly
Persians were not heavily Anti Semitic.
1979 (birth of Islamic Republic of Iran), again Islam is in charge
and so the Anti-Semitism is back in power! As you see, Persia
and Persians are not Anti Semitic, but every time Islam becomes
in charge of Iran, then the Nazism and Islamism will glorify the
Anti-Semitism in the brains of the Persian Youth!
Persian Elephant Unit - Achaemenid period
So as we see,
both during the city-states and during the Empire (Alexander),
Jews were basically treated as dirt. At most their properties
were confiscated and they were exiled and at least they were discriminated
In Rome, Jews
were brought as slave labors and their riches were confiscated
to build Coliseums!
the Jews were welcomed to live in peace with equal rights the
same as all Persian Citizens.
How the Slavery was practiced in Greece
and Rome vs. Persia?
Let us do
a historical analysis on the question of slavery in ancient times.
Slavery in Greece
openly practiced in Greece. Salves and slave labors were a solid
base of the Greek economy in Greek city-states. Read any Greek
historical document and you will see that even Greek Historians
and scholars such as:
- 546 BC)
Pythagoras (582 - 500 BC)
Herodotus (484 - 425 BC)
Democritus (460 - 370 BC)
Do admit that
slavery and slave labor were "legitimate" practice in
Slavery in Rome
a normal part of the Roman life and a solid base of the Roman
What were the Romans doing for Pastime?
coliseums, Romans entertained themselves by:
a. Devouring of prisoners by wild beasts such as lions.
b. Public Execution of the prisoners of wars.
c. Gladiator fights which at last someone got killed.
joys and fun while watching lions eating the prisoners alive!
If that was not enough, they enjoyed public executions in coliseums!
And if that was not enough, their pastime favorite was Gladiator
Fights in coliseums!
fill up coliseums by tens of thousands to watch Gladiators brutally
fight one another and at last kill each other! This was amusement
to them! This was the greatest entertainment to them!
emperor, who would have thrown the most magnificent Gladiator
Fights, would become the most popular emperor amongst the Romans!
were basically prisoners of wars or slaves whom were given a choice
between prison or gladiator fights! Can you picture that?
At least if
they would choose the gladiator fights, they would become famous
as heroes (like today's American fake wrestlers)! But the difference
is that American Wrestling is a fake entertainment but Gladiator
Fights were as real as it could get!
recreating the famous historical Roman Battles in the coliseums!
For example, a group of Roman prisoners would play the role of
the roman Legions (chariots, cavalry, infantry, etc.) and a group
of foreign slaves and prisoners would play the role of Barbarians
(that's what Greeks and Romans called everyone who was not Greek
and Roman)! The recreations were all theatrics; however, the gladiator
battles were bloody real!
would fight one on one or group fights, but eventually some gladiators
would end up dead, to entertain the "Civilized Romans"!
Once the winner would slaughter the loser, he would become a National
Hero! At this point, Romans would cheer him and cheer the Emperor
who had thrown the ceremonies (Gladiator Fights). At this point
emperor would wave at the Romans like a god! At this point, Roman
Senators, Imperial courthouse members, masters of ceremonies and
other aristocracy would get erections due to the violence, murder
and public cheerings!
Do you see
how civilized were the Greeks and Romans?!
Beautiful Roman Examples of Civilization!
Allow me to
name a few glorious moments in history of Rome. These were great
Roman Civilization's fabulous moments:
Emperors Nero and Caligula
Nero and Caligula were the perfect examples of Gladiator Fight Throwers
and Masters of Ceremonies! Both were psychopathic murderers. At
last Nero had burned Rome and Caligula mass slaughtered many Romans
in a bloody orgy of S&M!
Rebellion of Spartacus
Spartacus (Anti slavery rebellion) was another great example of how
civilized were the Romans! Spartacus was a slave gladiator who
was fed up with the Roman bloody lifestyle and oppression of the
slaves and prisoners for being forced in to fights or prisonment.
to give the slaves, two choices between gladiator fights or prisonment.
At least as gladiators they would eat well, live well and be worshiped
by the violence loving Romans, but in prisons, they would simply
made a mass rebellion. Spartacus was a revolutionary. Spartacus
was killed in the battle and over 6000 of his followers were crucified
Massacre of Christians
violence were the norms of the Roman Empire. Crucifixion of Christians
is one of the perfect examples. Not that Romans crucified Jesus
Christ, who was a revolutionary of his time, but for over
300 years after Jesus, they systematically had crucified the Christians
inside and outside the Coliseums! They crucified the Christians
in public as a fun pastime for the Roman Citizens to come and
in the most brutal way would effect the psyche of the people,
not to revolt against the mighty Imperial power of Rome. Public
executions were also fun pastime recreations for Romans to watch.
Romans would fill up the coliseums by tens of thousands, buy munchies
and drinks and watch these executions! It was kind of like football
and Baseball, Roman Style!
Saint Maurice along with over 6000 of his Christian followers were killed by
the Romans. Mass execution and crucifixion of Christians and anyone
who did not submit to the Roman way was a norm in the Roman Empire!
Jesus and Christians for over 300 years were crucified and slaughtered
by the Romans.
Kindness of Romans towards Animals!
not even spare the animals! Romans did not hunt for food, but
for sports! If these animals were not hunted for sports, then
they would have captured and brought to Roman cities for participation
in the recreation of the famous Roman Historical Battles or simply
to be used as predators to fight the gladiators. Eventually these
animals would either die in theatric battles or by the hands of
the gladiators! It was a survival game, so either the gladiator
had to survive or the beast! Just picture the Romans would cheer
and jump in joy to see these survival matches!
responsible for the complete extinction of various species. Extinction
of various animals by Romans are world famous! Rare breeds of
Caspian Tigers and White Elephants were extinct due to Roman Violence
and Greed! Where are the liberal animal rights groups to bitch
and moan about it?
What were the Persians doing for pastime?
We had invented
games such as Polo, where two teams were riding horses
and playing ball with their sticks (Hockey on Horse-top). Our
Persian Stadiums were filled with Persians watching our national
sports such as Polo, Wrestling (Real Persian Wrestling),
Archery, Horse-top Archery (Archery while riding horses) and Horse
Persian Polo Miniature Painting - 16th
audience would gather to watch Persian Immortals (Elite Persian
Forces) do combat practices, ride horses, cavalry, infantry and
navy simulation battles and wrestling.
L + C. English Female Polo Team players (White Shirts)
R. Iranian Female Polo Team player (Dark Shirt)
audience would gather to watch our Persian Heroes play chess and
polo. At the same time Romans and Greeks were getting erections
watching gladiators, slaves, prisoners and animals get slaughtered!
L. English Female Polo Team player (White
R. Iranian Female Polo Team player (Dark Shirt)
Iranian Female Polo Club Match - Persian
Teams in action
Iranian Female Polo Club Match
Polo (Chogan) is one of Iran's National Sports.
again ask yourselves:
Who was civilized
and who was not?
Greeks and Romans loved to call Persians, barbarians!
Who were the barbarians and who were the civilized?
Was Slavery practiced in Persia?
was the only super power in the history of Earth, which did not
What Made Persian Empire So Great?
For once and
for all, allow me to clarify this issue,
was nonexistent in Iran before Islam. Before 651 AD, we did
not have slavery in the Persian Empire. Slavery was not practiced
in the Persian Empire. In Hollywood lies such as The 300 Movie,
you will see Xerxes is walking on top of slaves' backs (while
bent over) to walk down from his massive throne to the grounds.
Xerxes did not have a gigantic throne, which was carried by slaves
from battle to battle, while he was resting like a god on the
throne! Xerxes had a modest Imperial throne (more like a chair)
which he was sitting on it behind the battlefields, when he was
not participating in the command decisions around the battlefields.
In other words, when he would get tired, then he would rest on
L - R: Arteshbod (General) Hydarnes, Shahanshah (Emperor) Xerxes
(sitting) and Arteshbod (General) Mardonius observing the battle
front in the 300 Spartans film (1962)
had no slaves, no gigantic throne and no glorious harem with 1000
wives! Hollywood is mixing up Imam Hussein (the 3rd
Shiite Imam) of Arabo-Muslim with Xerxes! Hussein had 1000 wives
but Xerxes did not! Xerxes was a playboy, he had many lovers such
as Artemisia and married a few wives such as Esther but the rest
is Hollywood garbage!
Xerxes (486 BC - 466 BC) in 300 Spartans film (1962)
This is a realistic interpretation of Xerxes (Kheshayar Shah).
L. Grand Admiral Artemisia I of Halicarnassius (Persian Imperial
R. Emperor Xerxes I of Achaemenid
Xerxes and Artemisia in 300 Spartans film (1962), a realistic
Admiral Artemisia of the Persian Imperial Navy
Historical Persian Women
Xerxes up close
L - R: Arteshbod (General) Hydarnes, Shahanshah (Emperor) Xerxes
(sitting) and Arteshbod (General) Mardonius observing the battle
front in the 300 Spartans film (1962)
did not exist in the Persian Empire (before Islam). Persian Empire
was the only super power in the globe, which did not practice
slavery. Persian philosophy was Anti Slavery. While Greece and
Rome were capturing slaves and building their economies on slaves'
backs, we were giving freedom to the slaves! Educate yourselves:
Persian System of Government
A Democratic Federal Empire!
of government was a primitive and elementary form of A Democratic
Federal Empire! Artemisia I, was not of the three main Satrapies (Media, Persia and Parthia), yet she was a Persian and according
to the Persian Law, all citizens of the Empire were Equal, in
religion, rights, and in expression. Persia was governed like
a fearful Empire, yet unlike what Herodotus' pro-western revised
history states, Persia was a Democratic system of government in
Artemisia I of Halicarnassius
Grand Admiral of the Mighty Imperial Persian Navy (Achaemenid
Persian Trireme Battle Ships
Persian Trireme Replica
no slavery practiced at the time. Cyrus even freed 42,000 Jews
from slavery of Babylonians. Darius kept up the tradition and
of course Xerxes followed the tradition of his ancestors Cyrus
and Darius the fair Shahanshah. Persia being an Empire with many
colonies and Expansionism policy, emphasizing on Pure Persian
Pride, Aryan Culture, Zoroastrianism, and Aryan Race, yet it was
in an absolute Democratic style of the internal governing system
and state of homeostasis. It might sound contradictory but Persia
was a Democratic and Federal Empire in nature. Internally,
all citizens of the Persian Empire had equal rights. Once one
would dedicate and devote himself to the Empire, as a servant
of the Empire he would have equal rights to everyone else of his
own social class in the whole Empire. Now do not mix this with
the differences between social classes and the social system.
L. Cyrus The Great (559 BC - 530 BC) built the foundation of the
R. Darius The Great (522 BC - 486 BC) established and organized
the Persian Empire.
Holy Zoroastrian Temple system, Military, administrative, merchantship,
public, etc., they all had their own social classes, but this
was the norm of the world during that era and century. Still Persian
Empire was a Democratic Empire internally and in comparison to
many totalitarian slavery systems of Empires and Kingdoms of that
era in 6th, 5th, and 4th centuries BC, Persia was a role model.
One can easily refer to History books; even Bible and Torah had
mentioned this fact. Persian Justice was legendary.
either the sole super power in the globe or one of the 2 super
powers at the time. Persia had many Khashtarahs (states)
aka Satrapies. Each were "Self Governing" (Federalism)
themselves. Each Khashtara of Persia had total autonomy governing
themselves. They were only dependants to the central government
(Persepolis) for foreign policy (diplomacy) and military decisions
Let me clarify
this issue to all of you:
You heard it right. Persian Empire was a Democratic Federal Empire.
We did not practice slavery, we did not enslave other races, we
did not treat others like dirt, we did not have a brutal central
government (like Rome), we freed slaves (Cyrus), we gave equal
rights to "All" citizens of the Persian Empire (Darius)
and all our states had internal autonomy (Federalism). We invented
the concept of Human Rights (Cyrus Cylinder) and we invented Federalism
(in primitive form).
Persia was governed as a Federal system. Centralism had entered
Iran via Islam. Post-Islamic Persia practiced Centralism. The
fact is that Centralism same as slavery was an Islamic practice,
which was presented to Iran by the Arabo-Muslim.
Grand Admiral Artemisia and Emperor Xerxes
taking a walk in Persepolis
I beg you
not to believe in every garbage you read in Comic Books and watch
in Hollywood Movies.
One more time,
I ask you:
Who gave civilization
to the world?
Who created Federalism?
Who invented the concept of Human Rights?
Who was civilized?
Rome or Persia? Next
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