AhreemanX wrote:Flawed Statements!
Well, I will not become better, if you write in big red letters. You never be better in the end only by using the tools of teh forum . . .
Dear Calian:
My friend,
I am not, and I mean not, your friend. I inform myself everytime before I make such statements.
It would have been nice, if you did your study/research before you have posted this message! The last thing on this Earth that you would like to do is to get in a Historical Discussion with me! History is my Nightly Beef! I have been study & research it since age 10.
You have to study politics too. History is not everything. To study it for long time does not mean you know everything. Keep that in mind - you and I are in no ways better then other people.
Please Observe The Flaws in your statement:
please observe the arrogant and discriminant way you write, perhaps one day it will fall back on you in a way you will not like it. This is a simple hint, no warning or something else you like to interpretate into this.
You are Wrong!
Do you have ever read a sciencetext with exclamation marks?
Corrections:Iran (Persia) is the oldest civilization in the world and has 8000 years of history. Here is why:
No Civilization is older than Iranian Civilization. Iranian History does not start with The Persian Empire (559 BC), but it starts with The City State/Kingdom of Shoosh aka Susa (6000 BC). This is where most people go wrong (due to lack of information). Public is simply not aware of much important historical facts. Public believes that Iran has a bit above 2500 years of history; however, historians know better that, way before Persian Empire, there was the Median Kingdom, Vedaee Kingdom and Susa Kingdom and all of these periods are periods of the Iranian (Persian) History.
I know the later Empires and they are civilizations in fact. Do you ever ask yourself from which societies the term civilization do come frome? Do you have ever informed yourself, before making statements?
Allow me to inform you:
Thank you, the same to you.
Periods of Iranian History:
1. Ancient Civilizations Era: 6000 BC - 2000 BC
wrong, the term civilization could not be used for this era. search for the oldest city in the world - it ist no civilization after all, because the term comes from some other place.
2. Vedaee Era: 2000 BC - 850 BC
3. Pre-Avesta Era: 850 BC - 728 BC
4. The Kingdom Era: 728 BC - 559 BC
5. The First Imperial Era: 559 BC - 651 AD
6. The First Arabo-Islamic Invasion-Occupation Era: 651 AD - 873 AD
7. The Second Imperial Era: 873 AD - 1979 AD
You forgot the Mongol invasion and Timur Lengs Mongol Empire.
8. The Second Arabo-Islamic Invasion-Occupation Era: 1979 AD - present
Wrong, the second. The revolution was islamic in truth, but it was shiite islam, which are only in one Arab state the majority[hm, the grammar in this sentence is incorrecte], in Oman. And I never know, that the Oman financed the Islamic revolution. But you clear me up then, thank you.
"These are:
Egypt(3100BC - first dynasty) "
You are Wrong again.
Correction: Egypt does not have 5105 years of history (as you wrote). Egypt has 6000 years of history. Iran has 8000 years of history, much older than Egypt.
According to you:
3100 BC + 2005 AD = 5105
The Reality is:
Egypt has a bit over 6000 years of history. Egyptian Civilization existed before the Egyptian 1st Dynasty. Egyptian Civilization starts with Egyptian City State and Egyptian Ancient Civilization Era, not with The 1st Dynasty! So you simply disregarded 895 years of the Egyptian History! You denied Egypt of 895 years of her history!
You do not know how to use the term civilization correct, so get back to your books and find out please. You see, I simply use you violent and ignorant language against you. A funny thing in the end?
6000 years of Egyptian history is less than 8000 years of Iranian history! Simple Calculation.
history or civilizational history? History dates back to nomads and cave tribes.
"Sumer(3100BC)
following Akkad(2350BC) "
Once again you are wrong!
Corrections: 5105 years of Mesopotamian history (Sumer, Akkad, Assyria, Babylon, etc.) is less than 8000 years of Iranian History.
histoy, should I describe again, what history means? No, I think, you got the message afterwards.
Summer and Akkad are Dead Cultures and they do not exist any more! We are talking about Living Cultures!
Well, where is this written. I read the Forum information - no hint. It was not hinted with an important poll, so who should know. Oh, now you could suggest, that this is clear and logical, but afterwards all people are geniuses. The classical Iranian culture is also dead. But this would all be wrong, culture could not die - parts oft it are adoptet from later cultures, empires and civilizations - you could now hate this term, but it is just a term, is it not?
Even if they did, still they would have:
3100 + 2005 = 5105 years of history
Iran has 8000 years of history, much more than both of them.
Wrong again.
"The Persian Empire dates from Elam, east of Mesopotamia."
Wrong!
Corrections: Persian Culture dates from Susa (today's Khuzestan state of Iran)! Thats 6000 BC. Way before Elam (partially ILam state of Iran), there was Susa (Shoosh).
In web lexicons and in books it is describe in another way. Interesting, is it not. But you knwo more than all the Scientists, it now comes true to me.
"early Indian and Sinian empires date earlier or from the same time on. "
Wrong again!
Correction: India with about 4600 years of history is no match to Persian History of 8000 years!
You really like history and do not know what the term means? This is funny.
"Excuse my English, please."
You have made so many Incorrect and Wrong Statements in this post that if you were my student in University, I would have made you to retake the course in which you have registered in!
Well, I am not your student, but if you are really teachin I grieve for the good of your students. If my tutors and profs would be that bad, I should change university by now.
But,
Ahreeman is forgiving! Ahreeman shall forgive your English; however, this is no excuse for making Flawed and False and Wrong and Extremely Sad Statements in The IPC History Hall, without thoroughly studying your material first! But then again, we shall slide this one under the Persian Rug and forgive you, because:
Oh, I am sorry. But I can not forgive for being violent to language culture and agressive by talking. How you shout in the wood, so it echoes back.
Ahreeman is Generous and Forgiving. Now grab a cup of Persian Tea with lemon on the side, sit down & let me inform you of some history.
Allow me to enlighten you:
Oh, I am clearly enlighted by your rape of language. It is sad, but there are not many ways in which the USA are not sad.
What we need to know is that, all the great ancient cultures of the world by the order of their historical age, including:
How could you dare to describe a culture as great, if you do not know all cultures in history in all pieces?
Egypt with about 6000 years of history
China with about 5200 years of history
India with about 4600 years of history
Peru (Aspero) with about 4600 years of history
Greece with about 4000 years of history
Mexico (Olmec) with about 3200 years of history
Lebanon (Phoenicia) with about 3100 years of history
Tunis (Carthage) with about 2800 years of history
Italy (Rome) with about 2500 years of history
Japan with about 1700 years of history]
Are no match & by no means even near the:
8000 years of Iranian History
The Oldest Civilization in The World
Well, you have not understand. Should I describe it again, but you are truly wise, in a negative, sad way.
And not only read books from on person only. One should know terms, before he teaches them. But these are the USA, a country heading for another dark age, because this time event did only take in Europe and the Americans want to know it by themselves.
Welcome to IPC
thank you
Amen
Sign,
AX
Well, may your god bless you if you really believe in him.
Greeds
Calian
Faith could shatter mountains, but religions shatter mankind.
Communism, Anarchism and Democrazy are illusions, read Freud if you do not believe me. Do not cry over our destiny - break all civilizations down and create a new, global one.