IRAN108 - Din, religion
Kudakaaneh aziz qesseyeh emruzeh maa din ast.
Yeki bud hich kas nabud qeyr az Khodaa !
After 4000 years of sending many prophets to so many nations in so many languages, God
thought that he had made a mistake & that people were confused as to what religion they
should worship him with.
So he sent the last one, Mohammad, to clear things out. First he told M to be nice to
people of other religions, but after 10 years he got angry & told M to 'kill them all',
the very same people who had obeyed him by following his previous prophets!
This anger came from knowing subconsciously that it was a mistake to kill his previous
'children' who believed in him, but there was no choice & he had to be tough.
But God didn't say in Quran who should take over from M, or maybe he wasn't sure yet.
Also God realized that telling M to kill & rape all the non-Muslims was a mistake. So
he 'pushed' some Iranians to follow Ali & his sons one after each other & so Shi'eh
Islam was created. He tried telling these Imams to teach Muslims to be kinder to
non-Muslims if they behaved properly (no need to rape & kill all the times).
But this having all-knowing all-powerful Imams couldn't go on forever,
coz what's the point of M being the last prophet, if all these Imams would
come after him? So he decided to have Imam Zaman to be the last Imam & a messiah.
Messiah was used by him before, but God couldn't go & change Quran coz M was in heaven.
After all this, God became tired & took a nap. He woke up to find out that Shi'eh
had not taken over the whole world. God realized that it was taking too long, so he
looked for an action man who was full of hate & voila he found Khomeini. He wanted a
huge-jump-forward by being 'backward' to speed up the coming of Imam Zaman (see
Naapahlavi for Y this is forward). So he came up with KIRI (Khomeini's IRI), or IRI
for short.
After a while Khomeini became so powerful that many worshiped him & turned him into
a Saint Imam. So he had to be sent to heaven.
But God realized that this IRI was another big mistake:
-Religion & politics don't mix
-People will get tired of hate & killing
-Educated westerners won't follow IRI
-IRI did too much damage & turned off many Iranians from Islam
-IRI can't be the ruling party (Government) for long, coz Imam Zaman will come when
the ruler is corrupt, but the Government-of-God can't be corrupt, so IRI can't be on
top for long!
But Iranians are so divided that they can NOT unite to get rid of IRI. And even if
IRI is removed, Shi'eh is gona go underground saying that 'nazaashtand', blaming
the British paying the corrupt Akhunds to ruin IRI/Islam. They r gona bring up their
kids with hate & teach them to be suicide-bombers to sabotage & kill whoever comes
to replace IRI for ever to keep the fire of Islam burning forever!
But God's biggest mistake was that he rushed things! If he had taken the time to
look into future, as an all-mighty all-knowing God could, he'd have seen that
eventually some damned Scientists would find out that:
-the earth isn't flat
-Sun doesn't rotate around earth
-Earth was created 4000 Million years ago, not 4000 years ago
-Dinosaurs & many other animals were created way before man was created
- "I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have
designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their
feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."
- "I do not think it is necessary to believe that the same God who has
given us our senses, reason, and intelligence wished us to abandon
their use, giving us by some other means the information that we
could gain through them."
- "Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders?"
- "The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by H.Sapiens is
that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the
Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of his creations, that
he can be persuaded by their prayers, and becomes petulant
if he does not receive this flattery."
- "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact,
every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of
reason, than that of blindfolded fear".
- "Scientific views end in awe and mystery, lost at the edge in uncertainty,
but they appear to be so deep and so impressive that the theory that it is
all arranged as a stage for God to watch man's struggle for good and evil
seems inadequate."
- "[I believe in] more of a pantheistic god--a sense of wonder and mystery about
the universe--certainly not a meddling God who lets millions die of starvation
around the world, but moves my lost keys to the desk after I pray."
Also, people would find it strange that Quran doesn't mention a Messiah (Imam Zaman),
coz such a major feature of a any religion must be in the holy book!
God must have known that Communication/information is the KEY. So I don't understand
Y God didn't give a monitor/TV to each nation from day one to broadcast the book-of-God
(the N-commandments) in the original language that Adam/Eve spoke) & give a copy of
this book (written on metal pages to last for centuries) to each nation.
This would have saved so much trouble:
-Hundreds of different religions would not have been invented, each causing
so much killing & blood shed
-Hundreds of different languages would not have been invented & people all
over the world, speaking the same language, would have understood each other
better & wouldn't have gone to wars all the times to kill each other.
-No need for God to send so many Prophets to so many nations
-No need for some Prophets killing people of the previous Prophets
But this is not for us to question bachehaayeh aziz, coz GOD moves in mysterious ways!
Baalaa raftim aab bud,
paa'in umadim maast bud,
qesseyeh maa raast bud.
Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
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The other things I don't understand are the issue of Language, race & Incest.
1-
God spoke to Aadam & Havvaa, so they must've had a language, which must've been
the Original language or God's Language (GL1), and it must've been perfect, being
God's language. So their Children & grand children must've spoken GL1 for many
generations. But then Y are there hundreds of different languages today? I can
understand a few words being changed & new accents developed over time, but Y would
people let go of a perfect language & go invent so many languages from scratch?!!
And by doing this cause so many problems/wars due to language barriers &
miscommunications. Another mistake?
And to make things worst, God ended up sending so many Prophets to different nations,
all speaking different languages & causing so much confusions & Wars & bloodshed.
2-
Y are there so many different types/Races of humans(black, white, red, yellow, short,
tall, round eye, almond eye, …)? I mean Adam & Eve must've been perfect in every details,
being created by God. So I can understand that over time, some could be more tanned than
others, but Y some should end up having dark black skins with totally different features
(Eyes, nose, hair, …)? Surely, this must've been caused by God, but then Y change something
that was perfect?
But how did this happen? God tried to experiment & a baby was born with dark-black skin from
white parents? Didn't this shock the hell out of them?
Also, Y should some animals have hundreds of totally different species? For example, Y should
there be hundreds of different types of frogs? Surely they were not created all at the same
time with Adam & Eve? I mean Noah could've never built a boat big enough to fit a pair of all
these species. Besides, all these species don't exist in the same place, so does this mean that
the big flood didn't happen in Australia/America? But then again all the land mass used to be
in one big chunk, but that was millions of years ago & not 4000 years ago at the time of Adam/Eve!
Surely God wouldn't allow 'evolution' to mess up his 'creation'! But then Y is it so then?
3-
Almost all religions forbid sex between bothers & sisters, fathers & daughters, and mothers
& sons. But this is what must have happened, coz humans were created from Adam & Eve.
It has also been proven by science that incest is wrong & results in birth defects. Then Y
didn't God create 2 or more pairs of humans & forbid them to have incest from day one, rather
than forcing them to do it & then telling them later that it is a Sin?
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On the issue of SEX in Heaven:
1- How come GOD would not offer sex as an incentive in his previous religions, preached by
his previous Prophets whom are also regarded as Prophets in Islam? I mean how come Jewish &
Christians men don’t get young virgins in heaven, but Muslims do?
2- Where do these young virgins come from?
a- Does God create them from nothing again, or he has to grab a rib/part from every man?
b- Are they the young virgins who died & now have gone to heaven?
c- If b, this is not fair, coz in heaven nobody is supposed to do any work, no? U just have to lie
down want/wish things & u’d get them.
d- Are they the dead old women who now appear as young virgins, like they used to be?
e- If d, do they still have all their memories? If so, then they r not real innocent ‘Virgins’, r they?
f- If d, this is not fair (see c above).
g- if d, then there is something for women: they all turn into Virgin sex-slaves for other men!
But this can be shucking for most women who got there by namaaz/ruzeh & had a sheltered life, no?
Surely they could not be sex-slaves in full view of all their brothers/fathers?!
Surely no fair/kind God would do this.
h- If b/d , then how come sex is bad (a sin) now, but OK in heaven?
i- If a, then how come it’s OK for the new generation (the ‘improved’ version?) of women to have free-sex?
j- Is there a minimum age? I mean what if some Mullahs, which I’m sure there r some , want 5 yo girls?
3- What age would the men appear in heaven?
I mean, when a 80 yo man dies, what age he would be when he goes to heaven, 80 or 20?
a- if 80, then what good would having a young virgin be to him?!
b- Do they get to choose what age they appear as?
c- If they appear young, then most of their family, who may get to heaven, may not even recognize them?!
d- I’m assuming that people don’t age in Heaven, coz otherwise it won't be that good!
4- what happens for Gay men?
Do they all go to hell, even if they were extremely kind & did nobody any harms?
5- do the Akhund/Mullahs get to choose the best looking ones & the youngest ones?
6- If anything u wish would happen, then what if some Mullahs would want young boys?
After all the deal was that u get anything u desire, right?
a- Where would these young boys come from then?
b- Or is it that those Mullahs would go to hell? How could God send his servants to hell?
c- But what if some Mullahs controlled themselves & went to heaven, but now they don’t have to control
themselves & can get anything they want? Having had so many Virgins, now they want a change.
7- What if some men would prefer their neighbours Virgins?
a- Do they have to fight for it then?
b- Wouldn’t this cause trouble in paradise? Specially if they are allowed to drink WINE!
Perhaps God have to create new rules for good/evil & create a new heaven/hell &
punishment/reward rules? And this could go on in the new heaven too, so it will have
to go on forever?!
c- But then they would not be Virgins any more, would they?! So they have to ask for
them to be made Virgins again. Gush these girls would forever be changed to virgins back & forth!
8- Wouldn’t men want new young Virgins every month?
a- They will sure get tired of the old Virgins soon, no?
b- Can they ask for more? After all, they can have anything they want, right?
c- Wouldn’t the old virgins get bored from not getting any ‘attention’?
Wouldn’t they get jealous & fight among each other?
How would God get them to behave? (new heaven/hell & new rules again?)
d- where would these new & improved Virgins come from?
Would God swap the Virgins around & change them back to virgins every time, or create new ones?
If create new ones, then what would happen to the old ones?
9- Wouldn’t some men feel uncomfortable having sex with their virgins all day in front
of their family (father/mother, Grand father/mother, brothers & sisters)? I take it
most people would want to be with their own family, right?
a- How far back can they go & recognize their family? I mean most people wouldn’t know
how their father(-2) looked like, but their father could. So u may get many generations
all hanging around each other: u see that guy over there, having sex with those young
virgins, he is my great(**9) grand father!
b- And all the great grand mothers would be hanging around too seeing all the orgies?!
10- What if some men/Mullahs want to have sex with young Virgin Animals for a change?!
Some maybe even used to it, after all some of their religious books, written by holy saints,
say it’s OK, no? Well the deal was to get anything they wanted right?
11- Do these girls get pregnant in heaven?
This opens a new big can of worms!
12- Not everybody would go to heaven, so when people can't find their relatives,
they'd assume they'd gone to hell. How could people enjoy having orgies with virgins when
they know their loved ones r suffering being burnt in Hell every minute of every day?!
13- What happens to people who died before knowing what sex was? If they appear as children,
then can't enjoy Sex in heaven. They wouldn't know how being adults would be like, so they
wouldn’t wish it. And even If they chose to be adults, they’d have mind of a child & body of
an adult, which would cause a lot problems.
14- What is there in heaven for women?
How come women don’t get young boys/men in heaven?
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WD,
"Where did you get the 4000 years from? "
I saw a scientific DOC where they calculated when Adam must have lived form Torah/Bible
& came up with about 4000 years, but said Earth must be 4000 M years old.
"Worshiping a man or an object is shirk."
Given time, humans will destroy any 'ideal' system/ideology for their own gain!
EE,
Interesting that recently a kind soul attacked me on JM calling me hameh-chiz-doon,
u can find my reply to him there.
I believe that there are major major social problems in Iran, which in a way are responsible
for the mess it is in now. I do not blame Shah for this, coz he was 'Iranian' too, just like
most of the Akhunds who meant well or were paid by the Masters.
I'm not into self-glorifying-orgies & prefer self-analysis to identify problems & finding
solutions for them instead.
I see too much EGO (doktor/mohandes/ostaad/hazrat/…) & would like to see a fair society where
amaleh/kaar has respect & everybody has basic comfort/rights (but I'm not a commie).
I like to see some form of unity among Iranians, so that they can work together & build up
the country & clean up the culture with caring & hard-work. Too many people are fighting
each other & are concentrating on finding the 'perfect' system, but I think unless the
culture is fixed, we will not have a perfect system even by 2200. So perhaps I'm trying to
show that: guys this is very urgent, we need to clean up the culture.
I'm not a self-appointed nothing & do not belong to any party-hezb. I just got sick of
watching Iran turn into this barbaric mess & people suffering so much.
If I didn't care, I'd live happily ever after in Khaarej (I do have a reasonable job &
can live very comfortably), and go visit Iran every now & then with poz & efaadeh & brag
that I live in Khaarej (like many others who do this).
If u read my posts here/JM, u could see more of me, which u may like or dislike.