To Roj Bash Kurdistan Forum:http://northerniraq.info/forums/index.phpIn regards to Kurds are Persian! Thread:
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viewtopic.php?t=720To Cheryl:"Iranians do the very same things in Kurdistan now. "
Correction: Sepah Pasdaran, Basij and IRI Forces do, not Iranians. We have a similar enemy. We work with Komalah, Komala, PDK, Fedayian Khalgh and other groups in Kurdistan.
"You want to USE Kurds to recreate YOUR empire again?"
Our Empire
" Why the hell should Kurds go along with that when they want independence from filthy Iranian/Arab/Turkish rule?"
Why? So together we will be relevant in the globe. That is the logic behind European Union. Separated European nations are irrelevant in comparison to USA or China. Together, they are a global power.
"from filthy Iranian/Arab/Turkish rule?"
You must have had very horrible experiences with all three. These experiences had made you a blind, hateful, Filthy mouthed woman! Hate will consume you alive. Hate will choke you to death. Get professional help before you end up as a lonely, miserable woman with mass complexes.
"your attempt to place Kurds under some fantasy land NEW PERSIAN EMPIRE."
Fantasy?!
Is creating a Persian Union in tradition of European Union, for all the future states to economically, industrially, politically, militaristically, technologically and culturally benefit from it, considers a fantasy?
Let me tell you what is a fantasy:
I looked at your maps. You want 3 states of Iran (Western Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Kermanshah), thank god only three! Then you want a small part of Syria! Then you want half of Turkey to be annexed & then all these parts to join Kurdistan of Iraq so in combination they will be together making the Greater Kurdistan!
Anyone claiming such claims, needs to get their brains scanned! Talking about fantasy! In a cold day in hell Turkey will give up an inch of their land, set aside half of it to you! You have been playing these separatist songs in Iran for centuries! Where did it get you? Iran will give away an inch of Kurdistan to you, when hell freezes over! The only reason, you have a semi autonomy in Iraq is because America granted you the green light! If America was not there to throw you the bone, you would still be under Saddam's boots! Who are you kiddin? As soon as America pulls out, you and the rest of Iraq will be in chaos! Talking about fantasy! A United Kurdistan for sure!
The only way, the whole Kurdistan will be united is for you, us, and every other part of the Iranian Family to join, united, to create the Persian Union. Kurdistan will finally have her union & all four parts will become one, but the Persian Union will make sure that Kurdistan will remain united as a state of Iran. You will have your autonomy & freedom but as a state of the union. This is the wave of the future so all of the Iranian family can stand our own ground. We will create this union free of foreign super powers because we will be a super power.
The good news is, most of the Kurds do not think like you. The bad news is, there are some Kurds who do think like you and they are the agitators, separatists, instigators and cause of the problem.
United we stand, divided we fall. With or without you, The Persian Union will form. We do not need your permission or anyone elses permission to form it. With or without you, Kurdistan will be united and join this union, so she can prosper and progress as a part of the Union. We will create this union under our will, not under USA or UK or Russia's will.
"What does a PERSIAN union have to do with Kurdistan or Kurds?"
Everything! Read what I wrote above. Kurds like others will be proud citizens of this union and will gain glory, prosperity and progress. Most important, they will gain internal autonomy and peace forever.
" I don't see anything Kurdish in that."
Go get an eye exam!
"I mean, if you want to prostitute yourself to Persians"
You have a filthy mouth! You need to have some respect for yourself so others will have some respect for you. This is not the way to conduct a dialogue. This type of talk belongs to Sanandaj Zoo, not a public forum!
I do not prostitute myself to Persians because I am Persian, so are you and every other Kurd.
"Iranians or whatever the hell else kind of people you want to suck into your little fantasy"
One out of three words coming out of your mouth is a curse word and your complete paragraph is hostile, bad mouthing, threats and envy! I wonder what happened to you to become such a lonely, hateful, resentful, sad woman?!
"and your racism is quite apparent"
Playing the Race Card, Religion Card, Other Cards are getting old. These kinds of cards cannot fly anymore because we live in 21st century. Get a new game to play! This is getting old.
"Yeah, right. I know I believe you."
If you had any sense you would! You can sit here for another hundred years in dreams of a united Kurdistan, like you have been doing it for centuries, or you can be a part of the future like many other Kurds and other Iranian Hamrazman are already have become. Take action or live in your dreams.
To Heval:"Iran will undergo another revolution but they never do much more than talk - talk - talk."
You do not know us, if you did, you would not talk so! The founder of IPC has been fighting the Islamic Regime for 27 years. I have been fighting the regime for 10 years. IPC has been fighting the regime for 6 years. You assume things and when you assume, you will make an ass of you and I.
To Dyaoco The Med:"Kurdish is a shoot of persian language? "
Persian means Iranian. Kurdish is like modern Median. Persian is modern Parsi. Meds, Persians, Parthians are three major Aryan tribes of Iran. Kurdish is an Iranian language. So yes, Kurdish is a branch of Persian (Iranian) Language.
"no offense but I would rather living with Mullahs than Racist Persians. "
I have already told your girl friend that playing the race card will not work. It is getting old. Kurds and Persians are both Aryan so one cannot be racist against the other. It is like Klan be racist against Nazis! Your claim is a void and will not make sense. Get a new game.
"there was a Pro-Kingdom Pro Emprie persian that I talked to in the bus. "
I am not interested in your good old stories of chit chat with some Monarchist in the bus or whatever ........... You are talking to me right here and right now. I am a Freedom Fighter. I have been one for ages. I mean business. I am not running my trap on this forum to just say something. I am a very busy person. I deal with public relations. I work with Kurdish Organizations and I get results. I work with our internal, external and liaison groups and I get results. Save your stories for forum gossip lovers. I talk business and talk action and I mean business. Rhetoric do not fly with me.
"these persian racists are so stupid."
Generalizing is an ignorant action. Are you ignorant?
Would you like a Persian to say:
All Kurds are savage beasts!
Think about the consequenses of your talk, before it exits your mouth.
"there will never be any Persian Union , we are not persian , were are Medyan "
Med, Pars, Parth, same thing. We are all Aryan and Iranian. Stop playing with phrazes and stop lying to yourself. You and I are the same. Get a clue. Go read Geography and History.
"everybody knows Cyrus (the king of so called persian empire) betrayed Harpag [the Mede minster] and took the power of the Medes by Coup Deta. "
This kind of talk results in nothing but separation, division, hate and ignorance.
I am about Union, together, Brotherhood, Sisterhood, Persianhood, One Iran for All Iranians.
"Iran was made by Medes , if there was no Medes there was no Iran.
Kurds are sons of Medes, we are not Persian."
Iran has 8000 years of history. Median Kingdom (728 BC - 550 BC) started by Diako (Deioces, Dyaoco) is only one of many other dynasties of Iran. Before Media, there were Susa, Vedaii, etc. and after Media there were Achaemenids, Ashkanids, etc. Iran was not built overnight and by any one dynasty. Meds were only one of many dynasties of Iran. Kurds are only one of many ethnic groups of Iran. Don't over credit Kurds and Meds.
IPC Website is down now (by Hizbollah). The new site will be up soon and you can read one of Dr. X's books: 8000 years of Iranian history, the oldest civilization on Earth. Please educate yourself.
Kurds are Meds, Meds are Iranian, Persian means Iranian, so Kurds are Persian.
Stop playing with words and stop lying to yourself and try to create false separate identity for Kurds as a nation, a separate group or race.
Kurds are Aryan Iranian, the same as Persians. Kurds are one of many Iranian Ethnic groups, nothing more, nothing less. Kurdish history is part of Iranian history. You are Iranian and always will remain Iranian.
Parts of Kurdistan has been stolen from the Mother Land by British and Ottomans. Now it is divided in Syria, Turkey, Iraq. Kurdistan belongs to Iran. Kurdistan will return to Iran, every single inch of it.
By the way, that map of yours is a lie. Half of Turkey does not belong to Kurds! Now thats fabrication!
"an advise for you, the time for Making Empires has expired a long time ago... "
Wrong, tell that to European Union, they have just made one!
"this world is the world of computer and intenret..."
Thats is why we are trying to progress the whole Iran (including you) by speed of light to be compatible with 21st century.
"there is no border. borders are fading."
Then why are you creating borders between two brothers (Kurs and Persians)? You are creating borders, I am breaking them and putting them in trash.
" think about a better thing to do ,"
Better than educating you and a bunch of other separatist Kurds who are making false identity, nation and race for themselves?!
" than making an ampire in year 2006"
Making The Persian Union is the only way that we as Iranian People can survive, have a voice, be compatible and relevant in the world. We must match USA, EU, China and Russia. We are realists. We are visionaries. We are fighting for our independant and survival. We are fighting for you, us and every other Iranian people. Unlike you, we are not waiting for America to throw us a bone in North Iraq!
I am a proud Kurd (part Kurd) who knows what is the game and I got game, how about yourself?
Do you enjoy remaining as a poodle dog to Yanks? Do you enjoy Yanks to fight for your freedom? Do you enjoy putting your brothers (Persians) down? Do you enjoy pig headed songs of I am better than you or childish Med vs Pars games? Get a clue man!
When will it end? I am Dari, I am Kurd, I am Tajik, I am Baluch, I am Parsi, I am bla bla.............
We are all Iranian. Nail it in your brain.
Divided you are nothing, little USA Doggie, thats what you are.
To Piling:"According to linguists, Kurdish is to Persian what Italian is to French or English to neederlander language : close cousins, no more."
Get a clue! Who are these linguists?
Kurdish to Persian is like German to Swedish, very close. Same family of Iranian Languages. Many words are the same and many others are variations of the same words. Some words are different dialects of the same words.
To Veladimir:"go make your stupid propaganda somewhere else."
This propaganda will help to make our race (Kurds and Persian) to survive as a Union to see the next milenium, than to scatter in 20 different small countries ruled by the west and Arabs. I do not need your permission or ignorance to help my people to survive and become united.
Next time when you talk to a human being, watch your filthy mouth.
To Diri:"HAHAHAHAHA! "
Don't laugh too much, you might choke on your tong!
"Let's start with "Chahar Shanbeh Soori"... In the Persian LANGUAGE - this means NOTHING... "
Wrong, Soor means Party. Go study Persian. I am glad you people are not linguists! But I bet all of you believe that you are!
"In Kurdish it means "The Red Wednsday" - "Charshembe Sor" as it is in it's original version..."
Wrong, the original version comes from Persian: The Wednesday Party.
It is not Sor (Kurdish) which means red, but it is Soor (Persian).
"I will get back to the other two in a bit... I am in a hurry..."
Don't bother, I am leaving because you people are too primitive, rude, hostile, blood thirsty and ignorant.
To All of You:I came here as a human being, as your sister to open a dialogue with my Kurdish Brothers and Sisters. In return, you have done nothing but to call names, bad mouth, insult, twist the history, lie, divide, create enemies, spread hate, separate yourselves, isolate yourselves, generalize all Persians, create false identities for yourselves as non Iranians, trash me and use the filthy language, race card, religion card and everything else in your power to put me down!
I mentioned it to you before, I am part Kurd and we have Kurds in IPC and we work closely with many Kurdish Organizations (Komalah, Komala, PDK, Fedayeen, etc.) and the Kurds I know, they are about Building the future, not destroying the future. The Kurds I know, believe in Federalism and Autonomy but they also love Iran. The Kurds I know, they don't blame me for crimes of my enemy (IRI). The Kurds I know consider me their sister.
What is wrong with you that you are so resentful to me? I am speaking to you of truth. If you don't believe in this truth, then have a dialogue, but why attack me and want to skin me alive? If you behave like this with one of your own, then how do you behave with others? I am shocked of your behavior! I am surprised to witness Kurds behave so uncivilized! You are giving a horrible name to Kurds.
You can continue lying to yourselves, but no matter what, you are Iranian and that Iranian blood is pumping in your veins. Kurds are Persian, get used to it. What you do here, does not help the Iranian People (including you) to unite and survive. It will not help us fight our enemies and grow strong in the world. You love to play the race card, but you are the most racist people I have seen amongst Kurds!
The idiotic thing is that your Racism is a void, because Kurds and Persians are both Aryan, the same race. Your racism is idiotic! It is like a German being racist against an Austrian! You are very confused, illiterate in history and hostile to truth! It is so sad that it is laughable!
No matter of whatever you responded to me, all your hateful remarks and resentful statements full of hate and confusion, full of ignorance and very sad vibs, I am a realist Kurd.
I am a proud Kurd, I am a proud Iranian and I will continue enlighten Kurds who are ignorant to their own race and culture which is Iranian. It is a shame that you act like this with a stranger half way around the world in a public forum! I wonder how would you act with them if they visit you in Kurdistan?
Despite your sad behavior, I love Kurds, most of Kurds are very hospitable, friendly, wise, brave, strong and smart. I am in constant contact with Kurds, but my experience with you, is the first in my life! I am honestly surprised by your behavior! As Kurds, you should be ashamed of yourselves!
Despite your childish behavior, historical ignorance, silly hateful racism and bad and sad behavior, I will always love you as Kurds and people of Kurdistan. I can hope for you to not act as bad as this with the next person who visits your corner of the Internet. Next time, when a brother or sister enters your forum, don't spit in his or her face, that is not how Kurds act!
Please don't say anymore, you have already said enough!
You are always welcomed in IPC. My home is your home.
Best Wishes
CR